At bleedin' last.
Right, I'll get the next one together over the weekend....
Edit: Sorry - been busy. I'll get there in the next 24.
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At bleedin' last.
Right, I'll get the next one together over the weekend....
Edit: Sorry - been busy. I'll get there in the next 24.
What connects....
- Me and Bobby McGee
- The Hubble telescope
- The Beauty Myth
- The Van Der Graaff generator
Three days, and no one's so much as taken a punt at it. Are more clues required?
I have learned a bit (just a BIT) about The Beauty Myth just now. This one is tough, though. If Janis Joplin had attended Princeton, things might be more than half-way to a solution, but as it is...
Spaced out, space telescope, spacey, spatial something?
Didn't Newton do something with pupils ? When he was doing light and rainbows in his "Opticks".
1) A certain Mr. Roger Miller wrote the song "Me and Bobby McGee".
2) That Mr. Miller also wrote a musical called "Big River" that debuted in New York on April 25 (1985).
April 25 is also the date that the Hubble Telescope was placed in orbit (in 1990).
3) An album called "Present" by the group Van der Graaf Generator was released on April 25, 2005.
4) Naomi Wolf *probably* (I have no proof) liked the sometimes legendarily beautiful singer Janis Joplin, who did her own version of Miller's "Me and Bobby McGee".
Inventive though that is, it falls at the first. Roger Miller didn't write Me and Bobby McGee.
However, you do care who did.
I'll add one to the list, as a further clue
- Me and Bobby McGee
- The Hubble telescope
- The Beauty Myth
- The Van Der Graaff generator
- A stain on a blue dress
Is that Monika Lewinski's famous blue dress.
Ok, I think the connection could be Oxford University, but more research needed.
Rhodes' Scholars! Hence the "Collossus" clue.
Naomi Wolf, the writer
Kriss Kristopherson, the song writer
Bill Clinton, who produced the stain
Edwin Hubble, of the telescope
Am struggling with Van De (and Der) Graaf Generator though.
Yep - they are all the products of Rhodes' scholars.
Robert Van Der Graaff (two F's, unlike the band), who invented the generator, was also a Rhodes' scholar. It's not mentioned in his personal Wiki entry, but it is mentioned in the Rhodes Scholarhip Wiki entry.
You're next, prendrelemick.
I have an idea, just working out the detail.
Here is some American Rhyming slang (there's no such thing I've just made it up,) in the style of Mills and Boon.
Rhyming slang works as follows:- A word is replaced by the beginning of a short common phrase. The end of the phrase rhymes with the replaced word. Eg “Apples” replaces “Stairs” because “Apples and pears” rhymes with stairs. Here I have tried to use phrases of American origin.
She felt tired. It was a sesame to hissy and acid a while. She saw Joe approach, this was catch. She tried to keep funny, but her touch felt long. She rubbed the back of her rain to enough herself. She was play, but he was go, a perfect match. "What a fifteen minutes I'm such a five O Clock," she thought.. “You look like you need some murder” he said.
Can you translate?
Here's a partial attempt.
In some cases, I have a phrase but can't come up with a rhyme (five o'clock shadow?), or I have a word that seems possible, but can't come up with a phrase (murder **** = sleep?).
She felt tired. It was a sesame street (treat) to hissyfit (sit) and acid attacks (relax)a while.
She saw Joe approach, this was catch.
She tried to keep funnyfarm (calm), but her touch felt long. She rubbed the back of her raincheck (neck) to enough already (steady) herself. She was play, but he was go, a perfect match.
"What a fifteen minutes I'm such a five O Clock," she thought..
“You look like you need some murder” he said.
"What a shame (15 minutes of fame) I'm such a ho (5 o' clock shadow)" she thought.
So far so good, Only I meant "acid test"-rest, but I don't think it is an exact science.
I'm not sure how to give clues. The five oclock shadow, is a difficult one, it's supposed to mean "pathetic."
"Murder ***" is from any American Cop show. (Its not sleep.)
murder rap
"You look like crap."
You know, I had a Eureka moment and didn't even bother to look back at the context within the conversation, that's how sure I was about it.
Its murder One - Fun, but I wish I'd thought of Billl's solution.
Soo, now for some Oxford blues, I'll paraphrase the phrases.
Catch **, You're wrong if you do, you're wrong if you don't.
Touch ****, A sporting phrase that also means keeping, or getting in touch with someone.
Long ****, A chance, but not much of one.
Play ****, The beginning of a baseball game.
Go ******, Go away and work it out for yourself
With five O-Clock shadow, I'm looking for a slang word for pathetic person.
5 o'clock shadow - shmoe
catch [22] - taboo?
touch [base] - face
long [shot] - hot
play [ball] - tall
go - [something] taller
no
yes but no, not taboo
yes
yes
yes
no
go figure - bigger
five o'clock hero - zero?
yes, yes
no,no
...saddo
That's very satisfying. I was thinking, "Strictly speaking this ought to be a double rhyme with the stress on the first syllable, but nothing rhymes so neatly with shad... Hang on."
Ah - definitely shadow - see above
Catch 22 - new?
Yes, "saddo" a near perfect rhyme. (unlike some of the others.)
New, is correct too, so that's it. Finished!
Who's go is it ? Has anybody got something?
For the record, I don't think any Americans had ever seen or heard the word "saddo" before the appearance of post number 466 of this thread.
I did wonder, but who can resist a perfect rhyme.
Mark found it very satisfying, so I say he's next, until someone else comes up with something.
Do another one Pren - that was good value!
I have nothing left, I'm drained.
This one's eminently googleable, but obviously that would just spoil it.....
This is a mnemonic I learned at school - what is it designed to help you remember?
Camels Ordinarily Sit Down Carefully. Possibly Their Joints Creak. Perhaps Early Oiling Might Prolong Perfect Health.
I am trying (in vain) to think of O level lists that had to be learned in the days of rote. There were loads in History (and Latin, my Grammer School wife informs me.)
I'll give you a clue.
As the years pass, it's necessary to add words to the mnemonic to keep it up to date. But no one ever has done that.
Well, there goes my theory that it might have something to do with the periodic table (chemical)...
Periods of the Phanerozoic eon. Cambrian, Ordovician, Silurian, Devonian, Carboniferous, etc..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Era_(geology)#Terminology
I doubt there will be anyone around when the next word is needed.
Did you know that, Mick, or did you look it up? Are you a former Geology student, an Old Rocker, so to speak?