The American President
10/10
I still don't understand how it didn't win Best Picture. Great movie.
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The American President
10/10
I still don't understand how it didn't win Best Picture. Great movie.
I introduced my best friend to Casablanca the other night. She fell asleep:(
The film gets 11/10, of course:)
I watched "Wuthering Heights" with Timothy Dalton yesterday afternoon. I LOVED the scenery. I'd give the movie as it is 10/10, but when compared to the book 9/10. It didn't even touch on the second half of the book, but that would have taken a miniseries.
10/10
Last night I watched "Les Miserables" with Liam Neeson, who gave a wonderful performance. I didn't like the movie too much, though I'm sure the book is much, much better. I'll have to read it sometime, but I don't know when.
7/10
MissScarlett, I think your assessments are right on. I would probably give Timothy a 10/10 for his amazing acting ability and at such a young age; but I would give the film a 9/10 compared to the actual novel, like you said. I love the film and own it, and will watch it again soon. I am in the mood for that film right now.
The Liam Neeson "Les Miserables" to me, had something lacking, which I could not quite put my finger on. I will have to see it again (my library owns it), and see exactly why I felt that way. Maybe I was just comparing it to the musical stage play, which I thought to be spectacular and very moving. I loved the novel as well; it does indeed have so much more!
It is a good movie, isn't it? :nod:
Reading these reminded me of something. Years ago I heard that they were making a film adaptation of the musical stage show. The rumor was that Mandy Patinkin would play Jean Valjean (a very good choice, I thought). I was looking forward to it, but it never happened. Then I remember when there was the talk of a version of "Les Mis" being filmed. Unfortunately it turned out to be this one that you two are talking about. I have never seen it, and to be honest, I don't think I will (I have my crazy reasons, which I will spare you from :)). But too bad they never did follow through with adapting the musical, huh? I still wish they would.
Well, I think they missed an opportunity there. Truly a musical on film would have been spectacular. I love the stage production. The whole stage revolved and it was amazing to see - very artistic. Maybe they could not figure out how to manage that on film. It would have been better to do it anyway a musical or to make the film version longer and a miniseries, which encompassed more of the novel. Also, I am not entirely sure Liam Neeson was right for the role to begin with. Jean Vajean is suppose to be very strong in body and I don't see Liam as that type guy. He seemed a bit slight for the part. Jodi May is always good, but she was a little too drab, to be the daughter. It was Jodi May, right?...now it's been quite awhile since I saw it. I get her mixed up with Claire Danes.
Janine, I think it was Claire Danes. :)
I watched "The Reader" tonight, which I've been waiting to watch for months since I missed it at the theatre. I read the book when it came out and I loved it. Well, the movie was good, and Kate Winslet deserves her Oscar, but honestly, the first third of the movie they were nude. Now, I'm no prude, and Kate Winslet is a terrific actress, but people honestly look better with their clothes on! A nude scene would be okay, but this was just too much nudity. Geez, I watched "Lady Chatterley's Lover" and there wasn't one iota as much nudity as this, so I know they can imply and film without so much if they want. After awhile, all the nudity seemed gratuitous, and I didn't appreciate it at all.
Thankfully, the last two-thirds, people did keep their clothes on, and the movie was really engrossing.
7/10 (would be 9/10 had they cut down on the nudity)
It definitely was Claire Danes...I remember because I used to crush on her...
Right - it was Claire Danes. Thanks.
Now, please, MissScarlett, don't take this the wrong way, but I am hysterically laughing reading your post. Thanks for entertaining me; I am serious. I can imagine this film to be total 'over-kill'. I was dubious about seeing it to begin with, and wonder now, if I will even bother. Geez, I totally agree and I am no prude either, but some people definitely look better in clothes....good they kept them on at least 3/4's of the time!:lol: I recall seeing Ralph Finenes in "The English Patient', a film I am not crazy over actually, and he and the woman lead, Kristen somebody or the other (Help! Total memory lapse again) looked emaciated in a bathtub together. I didn't think their scene sexy at all. Another good example is Tilda Swinson in a film with Ewan McGregor called "Young Adam". The film is sort of fascinating in a twisted kind of way, but I tell you Tilda did not do her career any good appearing blantantly nude and looking anorexic in that film. Now, I don't know how old Kate is by now and she certainly is a gorgeous woman, but Ralph is getting up their in years and I can just imagine...ick. You know I saw him in another film nude; he is nude in a lot of films, actually; I think he enjoys being nude. This was about a family having some secret receipe for wine during the Nazi occuppied period and he was tortured nude hanging from some stake. The bod did not bode well. After that, I was really turned off by the man's looks. :sick:Quote:
I watched "The Reader" tonight, which I've been waiting to watch for months since I missed it at the theatre. I read the book when it came out and I loved it. Well, the movie was good, and Kate Winslet deserves her Oscar, but honestly, the first third of the movie they were nude. Now, I'm no prude, and Kate Winslet is a terrific actress, but people honestly look better with their clothes on! A nude scene would be okay, but this was just too much nudity. Geez, I watched "Lady Chatterley's Lover" and there wasn't one iota as much nudity as this, so I know they can imply and film without so much if they want. After awhile, all the nudity seemed gratuitous, and I didn't appreciate it at all.
Thankfully, the last two-thirds, people did keep their clothes on, and the movie was really engrossing.
Sounds fair to me!Quote:
7/10 (would be 9/10 had they cut down on the nudity)
PS: remind me to tell you a really funny story concerning all this in a PM.
Glad I made you laugh, Janine. ;) It's great to laugh.
Ralph was never nude in the movie, though. Some young kid that played him when he was supposed to be a teenager did most of his scenes nude, and I swear, I could beat this guy up! LOL
And while Kate Winslet is a terrific actress and looks gorgeous in designer clothes, she, like Tilda, is not doing herself any favors by appearing nude so much of the time. I was about ready to stop watching out of boredom when they started keeping their clothes on. :lol:
Kristen Scott-Thomas is who you're thinking of in "The English Patient." I wasn't so fond of her, either, but I did like Juliette Binoche.
Yes, I need this right now. So thanks! I am still laughing, especially at your last line. I just cracked up at that point.
No? Well, that must be a first for him. Don't think I have ever seen him in a film when he wasn't stark naked. At least you were spared that! Was the younger guy good looking? I will have to look up trailers on Youtube. Now you have me curious.Quote:
Ralph was never nude in the movie, though. Some young kid that played him when he was supposed to be a teenager did most of his scenes nude, and I swear, I could beat this guy up! LOL
Well, she is not a teenager anymore, either. I think you are right. Do you know I read this about Andy Garcia; he has never done a nude scene; he refused to. I really like Andy Garcia in somethings; not in the ganster stuff but other films. I sort of now have a new respect for him. He won't do a sex scene either. He is very happily married to the same woman for his whole life. He's a total family man. Well, I say good for him!Quote:
And while Kate Winslet is a terrific actress and looks gorgeous in designer clothes, she, like Tilda, is not doing herself any favors by appearing nude so much of the time. I was about ready to stop watching out of boredom when they started keeping their clothes on. :lol:
That's the actress. She's not my favorite, either. I didn't dislike all parts of the film; but as a whole, I thought it was lame. I do love Juliette Binoche. I love many movies she has been in. I will discuss them later on with you. I own "The Widow of St. Pierre" (Help again, think that's the title), and she is stunning in "Chocolat".Quote:
Kristen Scott-Thomas is who you're thinking of in "The English Patient." I wasn't so fond of her, either, but I did like Juliette Binoche.
Glad I came along when I did, then. I like making people laugh and feel better.
Well, I'm still trying to scrub the nudity from my conscious mind, but I don't think Ralph was nude anytime at all. The younger guy was okay, but nothing special, and slipped to blah when he took his clothes off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Janine
I say good for him, too! Excessive nudity is not really necessary. Most of the first third of the movie Kate and the kid were either making love (nude) or nude in the bathtub together. Totally boring, and I kept thinking, "I wonder how her husband feels about all of that?" I know I would not like it from a spouse, even if he were making millions. Kate is a good actress, but she really didn't need a part like this. Things were much more tastefully done in "Lady Chatterley's Lover," which really had very little nudity at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Janine
Yes, it's "The Widow of St. Pierre." A lovely film. She was gorgeous in "Chocolat," too. Thank goodness, it seems Kristen Scott-Thomas doesn't work much any more. We're spared scenes of her nude! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Janine
Have you ever seen "The Sheltering Sky?" There's one VERY disturbing scene of John Malkovich nude in that one. Full frontal nudity. Enough to give a poor girl nightmares! :lol:
I heard her say that this film was the last one where she was going to appear nude. I thought "Why stop now? It isn't like we don't know what you look like after having done it so many times?". Is it because she is getting older? Truthfully, I don't know why she ever did it in the first place. I am not a prude, but I tend to find nude scenes unnecessary 9 out of 10 times.
This made me think of something. I was talking to someone once about doing nude scenes. I said I would never do one because I know too many people who are going to see it. I don't care to have my brothers see me in something like that. I don't want friends or acquaintances (particularly of my parents) to see it. Then there is the worst part. I would probably go to a store, and if I found out someone would recognize me, I think the immediate response in my mind would be "Oh, God, that person knows what I look like naked!". :blush: :D
What exactly is a prude?
Assuming that it has something to do with being or not being nude...
Is it a coincidence that it rhymes with nude?
Yeah, right, sure...that is until the next time. The worst I did see was this version of Hardy's novel "Jude the Obscure" just called "Jude". Oh my goodness, I just agreed with MissScarlett in a profile message that Hardy films don't have blantant nudity; but this one did! Not sure who the director was. It's a good film, but has some serious flaws. That is why I haven't really brought myself to purchase it and also, because the ending is quite changed from the novel and it has a terribly violent/shocking scene. Ok, but here is the point, Kate Winsett gives birth in the film, I am talking blantantly; now, I kid you not, you see the baby coming out. How in the world did they film that? I have to say this goes beyond nudity. Couldn't they have just suggested this birth in other ways? She must wear this device that looks exacly like a baby is being born. It was truly icky. I have seen real childbirths on TV, but this one took the cake. Can you even imagine playing that part?
:lol: I would feel the same way....definitely...haha...please keep your cloths on LWentworth! This reminds me of an amusing story to do with KB though. I will relay it soon in the social group thread. It is too funny picturing him.Quote:
This made me think of something. I was talking to someone once about doing nude scenes. I said I would never do one because I know too many people who are going to see it. I don't care to have my brothers see me in something like that. I don't want friends or acquaintances (particularly of my parents) to see it. Then there is the worst part. I would probably go to a store, and if I found out someone would recognize me, I think the immediate response in my mind would be "Oh, God, that person knows what I look like naked!". :blush: :D
Yuk, Bienvenu I would NOT like to see Malcovitch naked. I might throw up.:sick:
Someone that is very uptight, extremely proper, et.c.
:D True. I still like her, though. I would still have her play me in a movie (she was my choice in my B-day interview :)).
I immediately thought of this film when I read about no nudity in a Hardy film. Oh, that would definitely be a lie if someone said that about this one!Quote:
The worst I did see was this version of Hardy's novel "Jude the Obscure" just called "Jude".
Well, I saw that in another movie. I think it was a Spike Lee film, but I am not positive. I was just sickened. :sick: Quiet honestly, people can go on and on about it being natural and stuff, but it is NOT pleasant to watch. It is kind of sickening. I'll never forget having to watch it in SexEd in school. :sick: I can watch a Health program if I really care to see that. I don't need to see it in a movie, when I am supposed to be entertained. Seeing the baby appear in such a realistic way is NOT entertaining to me.Quote:
Ok, but here is the point, Kate Winsett gives birth in the film, I am talking blantantly; now, I kid you not, you see the baby coming out. How in the world did they film that? I have to say this goes beyond nudity. Couldn't they have just suggested this birth in other ways? She must wear this device that looks exacly like a baby is being born. It was truly icky. I have seen real childbirths on TV, but this one took the cake. Can you even imagine playing that part?
Yeah, tell the story! And don't worry. I don't plan on stripping anytime soon for the movies. :) Besides, I really don't want to be naked in front of the whole film crew either. :pQuote:
:lol: I would feel the same way....definitely...haha...please keep your cloths on LWentworth! This reminds me of an amusing story to do with KB though. I will relay it soon in the social group thread. It is too funny picturing him.
I watched "Sleepers" yesterday and got quite caught by the story. It's about a spur of the moment revenge, growing into a total revenge, and how to get away with it. One of the leading characters is quite into the book "the Count of Monte Cristo". It partly plays in court, but unlike most court dramas the trick is not to proof the innocent to be innocent, but to get the jury to let the guilty go completely. And lies are needed to make that work, lies by people that care much about speaking the truth.
I am not sure what to say about the movie. I had never heard of it before, while it has quite the cast: Brad Pitt, Kevin Bacon, Robert de Niro, Minnie Driver, Dustin Hoffman etc. I had never read the book it is based on either. I don't think it's a much above an average movie, and sometimes the close ups of Mr. de Niros puppy face are a bit too cheesy. Still I would encourage everybody to see it. It makes you think, or at least it made me think.
7/10
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Originally Posted by Sleepers
Do not ever watch "The Sheltering Sky," then. I wish men would realize that women don't want to see other women parading around nude any more than men want to see other men doing it.
I don't think celebrity marriages are any more challenging than non-celebrity marriages.
What I don't get about the whole nude scene thing, LadyWentworth, is that the actresses claim to have such modesty that they want a "closed set," but then the movie/DVD is out there for the entire world to see! I don't get that.
I don't mind a nude scene, but this was twenty or thirty minutes of nudity and sex scenes. Not a good way of starting the film. And I almost went to see this film at the theatre with my oldest brother! Good heavens! He would have spent the entire time hiding in the restroom or at the concession area. It was almost embarrassing to watch on my Sony portable. My husband came up behind me and said, "I didn't know the movie was porn." It's not! :lol:
I think both Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward did love scenes and their marriage lasted many, many years, seemingly without major problems.
I would doubt that a love scene is romantic in any way with all the lights and cameramen, etc. right in front of you.
I still don't think celebrity marriages are any more challenging than non-celebrity marriages.
I never thought about that before. That is true. Well, I am not one of those actresses. So I have no idea how their minds work. :)
I always joke and say that when I was 13-14 my brother and I use to "date" because whenever he went to the movies I was always his "date". :p So we had seen a large amount of movies during that time. A good deal of them were 'R'. That rating was due to the language or violence or sex (all based on what the movie was). It was OK watching this stuff until the nude/sex scenes came on. I use to just die. I was so uncomfortable watching this stuff with him (and I am sure he was the same way with me, definitely). I use to want to just sink down in my chair because I was so uncomfortable. We would also watch a lot of movies at home. But then I could at least get up and leave during those scenes. :pQuote:
I don't mind a nude scene, but this was twenty or thirty minutes of nudity and sex scenes. Not a good way of starting the film. And I almost went to see this film at the theatre with my oldest brother!
I heard there was a lot in there, but I didn't know, until you saw it, that there was THAT much in there.Quote:
It was almost embarrassing to watch on my Sony portable. My husband came up behind me and said, "I didn't know the movie was porn." It's not! :lol
I have to say that I completely agree with you on this. I really don't think any of their marriages are any more challenging. I also don't think a love scene will determine whether or not a marriage has more of a chance of surviving. Those actors are just doing their job. They agreed to those scenes, and they have to film them. I really don't think they think twice about what they are doing in regards to whether it will affect the relationship with their spouse. After all, acting is their job. They are just doing their job. As for Mark Harmon, I think it is just personal preference of whether he wants to do the scenes or not. I don't think he has too much of a problem because I have seen him in "heavier" scenes. I also think the reason he is still married to her is because he loves his wife and they still get along. Plain and simple.
I just finished watching Dead Poets Society and loved it!
In Her Shoes (again)
It's a good character-study movie, I want to read the book.
I don't know that I can agree with that. Well, I can't. I think you're just focusing on the ones that break up. And they love being in the spotlight.
Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward's marriage lasted fifty years.
Jack Lemmon and Felicia Farr were married seemingly forever.
Tony Randall was happily married until his wife died, then he married and had children with a woman he remained married to until he died.
Charlton Heston was happily married as were Henry Fonda and John Wayne. Clint Eastwood has been married to Dina Ruiz for some time now.
There's Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith, who seem devoted to each other.
Even Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones seem happily married, but both of them are ending their careers in acting, so trouble may be brewing there.
There are scores of other good celebrity marriages.
Meanwhile, the divorce rate for marriage in general is over fifty percent.
That's what I meant by them being in the spotlight...
The media will always point out the failures, but never the successes...I agree with what you are saying.
I would NEVER do a nude scene, either. Not for any amount of money. I wouldn't want that on my resume.
I choose the movies I watch with my brother very carefully. LOL Especially when we're in a theatre. It's usually something like a Batman or Superman movie or even James Bond, which won't be too racy. (I adore Daniel Craig, do you like him?) We did see "Borat" together, and my brother said it was "just too crude." It was crude. Comedy today is rather mindless, I think, whereas in the 30s and 40s, it was very intelligent. The "Thin Man" series is comedic and very smart. Same for the Katharine Hepburn comedies. And Clark Gable and Cary Grant. I just LOVE classic film! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyWentworth
I didn't think there would be that much. I was surprised. I don't remember the book having that much. I loved the book. I think the book was better than the movie. I bought Bernard Schlink's lastest book, Homecoming because I loved The Reader.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyWentworth
I agree. I think they're just thinking about their job and pay check and not the romantic aspect of the scene. Naturally, they have to make it look romantic, but I'm sure it isn't with all the soundmen, camera crews, etc. around. Probably anything but.Quote:
I have to say that I completely agree with you on this. I really don't think any of their marriages are any more challenging. I also don't think a love scene will determine whether or not a marriage has more of a chance of surviving. Those actors are just doing their job. They agreed to those scenes, and they have to film them. I really don't think they think twice about what they are doing in regards to whether it will affect the relationship with their spouse. After all, acting is their job. They are just doing their job. As for Mark Harmon, I think it is just personal preference of whether he wants to do the scenes or not. I don't think he has too much of a problem because I have seen him in "heavier" scenes. I also think the reason he is still married to her is because he loves his wife and they still get along. Plain and simple.
If they care what the media think of their marriages, then they shouldn't BE married in the first place. We aren't going to agree on this one. LOL I just pointed out the GOOD things the media said about them. I think non-celebrity marriages actually have more pressure. They have more financial trouble, more day-to-day problems to solve together.Quote:
Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
That is a lovely, lovely film, and Robin Williams was fantastic, but that one part in it (you know what I mean, I think, I don't want to spoil it here in case someone hasn't seen it) is just so, so sad! It always makes me cry. Have you seen "Good Will Hunting?" You'd probably like that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by parapony
MissScarlett, I do know what you mean about that part - heartbreaking. I loved the film and "Good Will Hunting" is amazing. Robin Williams is a very fine serious actor.
I agree with everyone's posts. Nudity in films and sex scenes are just part of the business of modern films; the actors are professional and getting paid to do it and even they will admit at times they feel uncomfortable. I think sex 'scenes/nudity' is fine if not overdone, but some film seem like a constant dose and then it's just plain annoying; like too much CG work. I have this advesion also to films where the guy just looks like he is banging the woman up against a wall; the women sometimes look like they are sheer pain; oh please! I saw Kate W and Patrick Wilson in "Little Children" and thought those love/sex scenes a bit much; didn't inspire me to suffer through the film again. To me that was not passion, but pure lust. Same with the library scene in "Atonement". I liked both films, but didn't care so much for those scenes. I like sensual passionate films 100% better, and I love the classics; how smart they were back then; to show just enough and suggest the rest. Look at Gary Grant and Ingrid Bergman in "Notorious"...the scene ozes passion and sexual desire and yet neither have yet taken their clothes off, nor never do; I could not get over what a hot scene it was regardless. Hitchcock knew how to do that with camera angles, sexy suggestive kisses, etc...it's very tantalizing.
I will try to locate some funny videos I saw on Youtube of interviews where the subject of sex scene fiasco's came up. Some were truly fun. Now both Johnny Depp and Ewan McGregor have done sex scenes and both have stayed with their real life woman and mother of their kids for years now. I think the pressures arise more from being appart for long periods of time while they are filming. It's not due to the sex scenes or the actresses they kiss passionatly. Afterall, these girlfriends and wives know perfectly well what the score is and how they will have to see their significant others, making pretend love to other beautiful woman; visa versa same thing applies to men.
I agree with you, Janine. And speaking of "Atonement," I felt the same way. I didn't like that scene, didn't think it was necessary, but overall, I did like the movie a lot. You're right, they are portraying lust, not passion. Just look at "Wuthering Heights." No clothes off in that one, and Timothy Dalton and Anna Calder-Marshall did portray passion, not lust. They were very passionate, much more so than KW and the kid (sorry, I can't remember his name) in "The Reader." Those two can't hold a candle to Dalton and Calder-Marshall when it comes to passion! :)
Oh, did you see "Evening," Janine? So many people I know didn't like that movie, but I loved it. I love Vanessa Redgrave in anything, though her part in this wasn't large at all.
Anyone who wants to talk about the film, feel welcome. I didn't mean to exclude anyone.
I know you didn't say they never said anything good. I didn't mean to imply that you didn't, and sorry if seemed that way.
Well, we disagree about celebrity marriages being more challenging, but that's fine, that's cool. People don't agree about everything. If they did, it would be boring! ;)
What I do agree with you about is that nudity usually doesn't add to a film. But it was funny in A Knight's Tale...:lol:
Flesh and the Devil
9.5/10
One of my favorite silent fillms with my favorite silent film star, John Gilbert. Very good movie. :thumbs_up
I rented Religulous and Memento a few nights ago, and watched them both, making a very late night.
Religulous made quite an impression on me, as most religious/spiritual documentaries do, but I would call it no Jesus Camp or The Devil's Playground. Bill Maher had some good points to make, but most of it seemed like 90 minutes of a stand-up routine on religion; he focused almost solely upon Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, too, which disappointed me for its lack of universality. He obviously put a lot of work in the documentary (borderline shock-umentary), did some heavy-duty research, and what parts impressed me really impressed me.
Rating: 9.5/10.
Memento came out in 2000, and I felt like the only person who had never seen the psychological thriller. It took me a little while to catch onto the plot, which moves almost entirely backwards in succession, giving it a few points for such uniquity. I have never felt too impressed by Guy Pearce, as he can seem a bit of an over-actor, in my opinion, but the film needed a pretty face with a studly body; Carrie-Anne Moss and Joe Pantoliano gave excellent performances, however. Other than some of the acting, I thought it well written, superiorly directed, and very carefully pieced together that leaves the viewer with eyes glued on the television.
Rating: 9/10.