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http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8228/castpartay006.jpg
The Thespian on watercolor.
(working hard on brush techniques! :lol:)
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You're welcome! We will be waiting..Quote:
Originally Posted by Annamariah
:nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilianus
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8228/castpartay006.jpg
The Thespian on watercolor.
(working hard on brush techniques! :lol:)
I see a beautiful combination of colours among the squares, toni. Well done, really :thumbs_up :)
Here are two picture I did for my AP art class- we were exploring form. Both are of the same subject- a pepper.
http://www.online-literature.com/for...pictureid=5048
http://www.online-literature.com/for...pictureid=5049
^So beautiful big thumbs up to you Adorero!'
As for you toni, you know what I think of your painting :p, but I must again reiterate, that it is your best work to date :D I love it!
Toni,Quote:
Originally Posted by toni
Looks like the makings of a an intersting concept and composition! Looks like you are getting a little bleeding of the grey into some of the squares. Be patient and let the background washes dry first. Another trick is to use a hair dryer on low setting to speed up the drying time.
Keep it up!
You are inspiring me to blow the dust off my brushes.
Great work.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdoreroDio
What medium is that? Pastel? and on what type of paper or board?
Gilliatt
Thanks :]
The first one is charcoal and the second oil pastel- both on pastel paper. :] I also have one in chalk pastel but I don't like it enough to put on here.
Many thanks, Max. I really appreciate it. :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilianus
Oh yes, I was cursing to myself as the grey bled on the squares and wondered what I could have done. :( But this cleared it up, thanks very much! I'll take your advice to heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilliatt Gurgle
And please, do-pick up your brushes again, maestro. ;)
Merci, monsieur Benoit.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielBenoit
AdoreroDio- Your art teacher must be extremely proud of you for creating a masterpiece. ;) I find it rather difficult to work using oil pastels but your work is an inspiration.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...t/069-Copy.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...enight/077.jpg
My best attempts...Can't paint though/... I can do some basic simple drawings
And these are great drawings, stephofthenight! The details in your first drawing was intricately done and I love the gothic feel of the second one. :)
thanks :D I'm glad you like it
steph
Welcome a lot toni :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by toni
steph, those Gothic drawings are a must. You have a really accurate hand for symmetry. Who's Andy, a brother maybe? :)
Unimpressive.
bar 'chava'
* bump *
I wonder if only drawings/paintings can participate on this thread. Specifically, would this thread be suitable for posting retouched images, animated pictures or any other computer-generated art, or should there be another thread for that? Is there a thread already, for computer art, that anyone knows of?
Why don't you start one, Max? I think it might prove interesting; good idea. It could involve artistic or experimental photos, as well or even animations they post on Youtube or other sites. I would like to see what people come up with. I have something I produced quickly a few years back on my old Photo Deluxe program, of a sunset and page curl with flowers. If you start it I will post it; although mind you, I was just playing around with the program to see what it would do; so it's nothing that great...but it's kind of neat, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilianus
I have no brothers, except ryan who i was raised with. but no I should have covered that up, but didnt think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilianus
Okay, I'll be thinking about a catchy thread title. I just hope it hasn't been done already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Janine
Sorry if my comment upset you, dear. I didn't mean to meddle :redface:Quote:
Originally Posted by stephofthenight
Max,Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilianus
I don't believe it really matters what form of "art" is presented here. In fact, I believe Higley (I hope that's right) had some computer generated pieces submitted a few pages back, but that is entirely up to you. Either way, we would love to see your handy work!
In the meantime, here is a little humorous piece I scratched up for my Thanksgiving thread:
http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/a...ving600dpi.jpg
Gilliatt
That is a great piece! Love how you inverted things, haha.
Wonderful sketch Gilliat, thanks for your reply!
I've always wondered how life would be if it were the opposite to what it is :rolleyes:
That is in fact a wonderful sketch, Gilliatt! All the more pleasing thanks to my recent infatuation with Wild Turkey . . .
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Originally Posted by Maximilianus
Thanks all !.Quote:
Originally Posted by skib
I'm happy you enjoyed it. Who know's maybe there will be a little surprise for Christmas.
It has been too long since I had last drawn or painted. This Forum has given me a shot of inspiration to get the rust out.
Gilliatt, this is very good and quite clever/humorous....a bit of "Animal Farm" here (?)...I like the way the turkeys are eating the drumsticks (human legs)....very well executed and loads of fun. Is the dog eating the arm?
It's good to see this forum has inspired you. I wish something would light a fire under me and get me drawing again. I really miss it. Keep up the good work and keep drawing. You are really good.
Thank you so much Janine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Janine
You got it, “Drumsticks” and “Wings” (the arm)
Disclaimer: I would never actually give a pet fowl bones due to potential for choking.
A spontaneous hankering for anthropomorphism mixed with a dash of sad tire, a pinch of Orwell’s “Animal Farm” and a passing mental image of C.M. Coolidge’s series of “Dogs Playing Poker”, each played a part in developing the concept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogs_Playing_Poker
The rest just bubbled up from the depths of my disturbed synapses. I had to chuckle after realizing the leg on the platter is a combination left leg with a right foot and ankle. The American Gothics look like a pair of vultures and the excessive length of the Turkey’s snoods would indicate that these birds are quite old, but I’ll defer to the master, Roger Tory Peterson, for the accuracy of such details.
Thanks again and please find that inspiration!
:lol: Are those turkeys drinking wild turkey? That's just great.
So it hit me the other day that I really really want to learn how to paint. I really like watercolor painting and would love to learn how to do that but I have zero artistic experience and don't know if I can just jump right into it. Where's a good place to start? Do I need to learn to draw first before I learn how to paint?
lalalauren,
First to answer your question; there are several members who are quite talented with the brush, drawing, sketching, sculpting, etc. There is one member here who makes "art" their life passion, though I'm not sure that he specializes in watercolor. There are at least three people I can think of, who are talented in watercolor.
They may not appreciate me dropping their names willy nilly, but you may find them in the "Let Out the Artist in you" thread. Buried several pages down by now under 'General Chat" (I believe) you can do a search.
I have dabbled in watercolor myself and would be happy to offer you some tips, though I am a bit rusty.
Gilliatt
In my opinion it doesn't really matter what medium you choose for painting, drawing, etc. (although oil might be a little bit more challenging to handle). The first and most important thing is practising, practising, practising... :)
Watercolours aren't really expensive, so you can just try it first, it's never too late to look up technical tips in the internet or read a book when you realize that you are in need of some help.
If you would like to paint anatomy or "realistic" objects it will be very helpful to learn drawing first, but when you just want to enjoy painting I don't think it's absolutely necessary.
I wish you a lot of fun! :)
Best regards
Thanks Loe! I have a feeling that I'll be having a lot of fun...I have an artistic side of me that's been dying to get out for a loooong time and now that I'm not in school I actually have the time to cultivate it. I'm pretty sure I'll fail at realistic objects since I have no formal training so I'm just going to try for abstract stuff/let whatever is in my head come out and see how it goes haha.
Thanks! I'm sure I'll probably be posting back on this thread once I get started. Still have yet to go to the store and buy supplies...any recommendations for what I should get?Quote:
I have dabbled in watercolor myself and would be happy to offer you some tips, though I am a bit rusty.
I am a working artist... albeit not in watercolor. I am far more experienced in acrylic, oils, pastel, print, and drawing. Nevertheless, I do have more than a passing knowledge and exposure to watercolor including a few courses at art school. With this in mind, I would suggest that if you are inexperienced with most artistic media I'd be somewhat wary of watercolor. It is quite an unforgiving medium and contrary to what has been suggested, it is not inexpensive... unless you plan on using crappy grade school watercolors (the kind that come as dried cakes in a tray) and painting on crappy paper. Good paper is a necessity when painting in watercolor and good watercolor paper is VERY expensive. Good watercolors in tubes are probably not far less expensive than oil paints by the ounce. Watercolor, unlike oils or acrylics, tend to be approached in a more spontaneous manner that doesn't allow for mistakes and as such good watercolor paintings demand some real skills and a clear notion of what you are doing and where you are headed from the very start.
Having said that... I wouldn't wish to dissuade anyone truly interested. I will offer up a few suggestions, however. First of all drawing is the central skill to nearly any artistic medium. I would definitely start with some efforts in that direction. You might especially think of employing ink or watercolor washes in drawings as a way to get a feel for the fluid medium that watercolor is. I would also suggest that you check out a good book on watercolor techniques or painting with watercolors. Beyond that I would suggest you look at some exemplar watercolor works. You can probably find a good deal of examples of the watercolor paintings of J.M.W. Turner, John Singer Sargent, Winslow Homer, Paul Cezanne, Edward Hopper, Andrew Wyeth, and Emil Nolde online by Googling their names and the term "watercolor". I would also take a good look at the Chinese and Japanese painters.
@stlukesguild-- I think you have some really good advice but since lalalalauren has "zero" artistic experience I really don't think she needs to buy top of the line products. I do quite a bit of watercolors that I am personally happy with on so called "crappy dried cakes." These were the same cakes that I used while painting in Russia with watercolorists that I thought were rather talented. A good artist can make much out of little. I personally find it important to be comfortable with sketching and drawing before attempting to paint but to each his own. It is rather cliche but practicing drawing still lifes to get comfortable with proportions and shadow ect can really take you a long way fast. Good luck and I hope this helps.
A good artist can make much out of little.
True... but I've always subscribed to the belief in using the best materials you can afford. It gives you a feel for the proper professional grade media, you don't end up struggling or fighting the medium... and if you actually do achieve something of real merit you don't need to worry that it will crack, fade, or fall apart in a few years.
I will second all that StLukes stated above and provide some examples of supplies and manufacturers that I use:
Suggested paper:
Arches "Movlin a Papier l'Arches" a French made paper.
There are various weights, ,textures and comes in either hot or cold pressed.
You can purchase them in blocks of 20 sheets.
Due to the cost, I would suggest starting out with the 140lb 7" x 10" block.
Brushes:
I would highly recommend using natural Sable hair brushes.
Paint Brands:
Winsor & Newton, Grumbacher, Sennelier
As StLukes mentioned, developing a foundation in drawing/ sketching is important, plus you have the added benefit of graphite/ charcoal being much more forgiving.
While you develope drawing skills, there is no harm with jumpnig into basic "wash" excercises.
Well, I could go on and on, so first you must look into purchasing a book(s) on beginning watercolor techniques.
And by the way, StLukes is the dude I was referring to in my first post.
Gilliatt
Thank you all for the advice/suggestions/recommendations. I'm getting the feeling that I should maybe learn to draw/sketch before attempting watercoloring...but I really don't know where to start with that either. Is that something that could easily be learned out of a book or would I be better off trying to find a class/private lessons? Also, I'm worried that I won't be able to effectively learn how to draw as I've always been pretty terrible at it :/ Do you think it is a skill that can be learned or more of something that is a gift?
I would suggest reading some basic stuff on anatomy, proportions, perspectives etc. (it depends on what you would like to learn to draw first) and then it's practising, practising, practising...
A natural talent might ease the progress, but without practising even a talent can't improve.
I made this experience myself (I'm not really talented myself but practising can help a lot, when I have the time for it).
Best regards
Read first,... books on perspective, basic illustrating, pencil, charcoal and wash techniques. Take a night class if you can manage it.
I've been an illustrator all of my working life, now retired, but I still work for my son in the family graphics studio.
I'm a portrait illustrator and mural carver by trade, but worked more in the commecial end of things simply because it pays.
www.stmariegraphics.com
Even if dabbling in it or just playing with it is your intent, itwill be more rewarding if you gain a foothold in the basics.
P
I would highly recommend using natural Sable hair brushes.
Oooh! Sable. You have to say that like Homer Simpson drooling over donuts. Unfortunately I am so abusive of my brushes... and I paint in oil and acrylic... I could never think to use sable unless I were to become fabulously wealthy. But yes... highly recommended for watercolors!
Thank you all for the advice/suggestions/recommendations. I'm getting the feeling that I should maybe learn to draw/sketch before attempting watercoloring...but I really don't know where to start with that either. Is that something that could easily be learned out of a book or would I be better off trying to find a class/private lessons? Also, I'm worried that I won't be able to effectively learn how to draw as I've always been pretty terrible at it :/ Do you think it is a skill that can be learned or more of something that is a gift?
I would suggest reading some basic stuff on anatomy, proportions, perspectives etc. (it depends on what you would like to learn to draw first) and then it's practising, practising, practising...
A natural talent might ease the progress, but without practising even a talent can't improve.
I made this experience myself (I'm not really talented myself but practising can help a lot, when I have the time for it).
Unless your intention is working figuratively (drawing painting the human figure) I would hold off on anatomy and life drawing. I personally believe that life drawing or figure drawing remains a central element of an artist's education for the very fact that it is so demanding and leads the artist to deal with form, shape, planes, values, textures... pretty much anything you will confront in drawing... and unlike drawing trees or apples figure drawing demands a degree of accuracy for the very fact that we as human beings are so accustomed to looking at other human beings that even those without training in art can inherently recognize flaws.
I would suggest that taking an inexpensive drawing course (or perhaps sitting in on local life drawing sessions where you can get feedback from other artists is the best way to learn. Also remember that you get out of such experiences what you put into them: ask a lot of questions... bring in independent work you've done on your own and ask for feedback. On your own I'd suggest starting with drawing simple still life objects... maybe with the assistance of a book. Draw such objects again and again and again. Draw them utilizing a variety of media. What you are doing is training your eye to look and training yourself the techniques by which you may convey what you see... you are learning about using line, planes, values, etc...
I would also suggest that of the greatest value is a design course (either in real life... or through a book). Design deals with the issues of composition. Just as a well-written work of literature has a structure, so does a painting. There are reasons that artists make the decision to employ certain colors... to place objects in a certain way upon the paper or canvas. Design teaches you to think about the underlying abstract structure of an image... even the most realistic.
From time to time i create some 3d graphics for the game Civilization 3. :)
Here are some i am working on currently:
http://i29.tinypic.com/8wias0.png
If you draw, or create in 3d, you can post your works here :)
And these are some older works, a collection of Byzantine churches :)
http://i31.tinypic.com/n6dixi.png
Kyriakos,
I was just about to mention that your “do you draw” thread may not ne necessary given the “artist” thread.
Are you able to post the images a little larger?
Regardless, I am impressed both with your talent and the advancement of the 3D capabilities in the “gaming” software as it compares to architectural 3D CAD software for example.
In the architectural field, we have been using 3D modeling software for quite a few years now. Your 3D drawings are comparable to 3D CAD images.
I see variations on a theme, Byzantine perhaps? Hagia Sophia, “martyria”, etc.
Oops, never mind…I see you mentioned Byzantine
My son is active in “Civilization”, though he has not created buildings and certainly nothing to the level of your pieces.
Are you able to create interior “cut away” views? Perhaps re create some of the wonderful paintings and mosaic images.
Very nice.
Gilliatt
Hi Gilliatt :) Glad you liked them.
These were made with Bryce 6, but i also work with 3dsmax, which is used by architects i believe. Bryce is just the simpler, easier program.
I do not model the interiors, since they would not be shown in the game, and i probably would not be able to create them or it would take too much work.
The Hagia Sophia has around 100.000 polygons i think, it is my most detailed and complicated building up to now, and i doubt i will create anything more complex that it. It was natural for me to make, along with the rest of the churches which are of Thessalonike, unlike some alien models which i cannot begin to understand the architecture, or i simply cannot create it.
The top graphics are for a fantasy set, but again they are mostly Byzantine :)
Really awesome pictures! I, myself am a learning artist, and just seeing these pictures inspire me :D