I know it's hard to avoid sometimes, but let's get back on topic please, politics, terrorism etc. are not allowed.
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I know it's hard to avoid sometimes, but let's get back on topic please, politics, terrorism etc. are not allowed.
how about this:
the comparision between banning books, and censorship on TV.
Banning books is a short step away from burning books and dictatorship like the Nazi Third Reich. It's also the first step toward something even worse -- the Thought Police that Orwell predicted in his novel "1984."
Since this book was mentioned elsewhere in the thread, "Mein Kampf" by Hitler should not only not be banned, it should be required reading for high school or college students. The book gives a valuable insight into the workings of a very sick mind that conceived the idea of book burning in Germany before the real slaughter began.
i dont understand banned books. i dont think that there should be any banned books, i mean if you don't like the material.. you are NOT forced to read it. dont ruin it for someone who IS interested in it. i mean, now i think that makes sense.
Ages ago when I worked in a book store, this book was forbidden to be sold in stores. As someone being in the military, I am for banning such kind of books. The last thing I need is some nut out there telling people "extremests of various kinds" on how to build a bomb. Yes, I would band such books in a heart beat.
You know, we instantly go running to the Constitution. That's fine, but it also says "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happyness. If such books will endanger my life and the life of my country men, it's band.
However, you can't please everyone and with some folks common sence and good judgement are right out the window. We've put an age limit on cigarrettes, movies, magazines, and so I reckon we need to do it with books. I do it in my household.
Hi, Snislove. Yes, I agree with your point there. However, to some people, the issue is much deeper than just a matter of interest, like, or dislike. For example, to authorities, this issue strecht beyond that; it may involves the issues of social morality/stability or even national security. Reasons which to some of us may sound ridiculous.
Welcome on board, by the way :wave:
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Originally Posted by snivslove
Starting at age 14, I learned how to make explosives and rockets from books in my public library. It was something that fascinated me and it led to a mastery of chemistry in general long before I ever took the course in high school. Because I was considered a precocious genius in chemistry, I was offered a college scholarship to study chemical engineering when I graduated.Quote:
Originally Posted by adm
I mention this to show that books and ideas are not dangerous in themselves, it's individuals who misuse them. I was no terrorist and I never harmed anyone with my experiments, but I gained something positive from being able to pursue my interests in books.
What you speak of is parental control, and I agree with that. I think that if parents truly want to be responsible for their children and do not want others (i.e. government) telling them how to parent, they must be willing to take the responsibilies that come with the rights. I agree with you on this point, however, I do not feel that the world should or can be child-proofed, and that includes trying to ban books to make it more difficult for children to get them.Quote:
Originally Posted by adm
I disapprove of banning books because it is not ideas that are dangerous, it is some people who are, and those people will be a danger with or without guides for bomb making.
I am not really sure about this whole issue. Ideas can be dangerous, I believe. I don't think I would be OK with certain books easily circulating around. Do you want to see a book justifying/dignifying paedophilia sitting on the shelves of your local library? Or actions of KKK? How would you feel if your neighbour had these in their personal library? If those book were written in a way to imply that it would be OK to do certain things?
Now I am wondering if those who are against book bannings are all against banning of certain websites as well.
Good points, Sche. The promotion of criminal activity is a grey area.
Personally, I believe if a book is more of an instruction manual on how to successfully murder someone or rob a bank, there may be some merit to banning it. But, if the book has any other possible uses, like Starr pointed out about the bomb book, I would consider it redeemable.
The problem is, whose standards do we use?
Weel, ideas are from people. So, what then? Do we need to banned the writters? And I think it's very deterministic to say that someone will be a danger towards others with or withour an access to certain types of books.
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Originally Posted by Psycheinaboat
85% of parents are irresponsible, misguided, and uninformed about what their children do, and want to let the government be the parent. I went to Best Buy yesterday, and an 8 year old kid was holding GTA: Vice City, and the mother was on the phone with her husband about the game, and I said to her: "I wouldnt let him play that." Maybe, like parents are involved with their children's sports, should be more aware of what videogames their kids play. This would not only bring a certain amount of responsibility into parenting, but the parents might also find enjoyment and bonding with their child.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycheinaboat
I agree that many parents should be more involved, but I do not know where you got your 85% stat. so I cannot comment on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiSaNtHrOpE
I do not see the need to ban an author who, say, writes a violent book. Thinking the ideas is not a crime, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by subterranean
Hmmm, I tend to think people who are "unhinged" or disturbed do not get it from books, but rather from years of difficulties or from physical abnormalities like chemical imbalances.Quote:
Originally Posted by subterranean
This reminds me of some of the murder cases in which rock music has been blamed for the actions of the killer. A healthy person does not kill because a song made violence sound cool, you had to be a little "touched" to begin with.
Hehe sometimes I'm just sooo glad that I don't live i that so-called "Home of the Free"... In Denmark they stopped banning books before I was even born. This also goes for the libraries.