I like everything in its original medium. books instead of movies based on books, and movies instead of books based on movies, if that makes sense.
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I like everything in its original medium. books instead of movies based on books, and movies instead of books based on movies, if that makes sense.
I find the concept of books based on movies abhorrent. There is of course enough material in a book to condense and cut and generally mutilate into an interesting enough flick, but trying to do it in reverse is like stretching turkey meat. How can the amount of material fitting into 2.5 hours not be LESS valuable when diluted over 300 pages?
Okay, that's my rant :p
Does anyone know if Randall Wallace wrote Braveheart the book or Braveheart the movie first?
Does anyone want to discuss one flew over the cuckoo's nest?
A totally uneducated guess, but I assume the movie, because I read "The Scottish Chiefs" and always assumed the movie was based on that. What with the sickening number of times the author uses the phrase "braveheart."Quote:
Originally posted by IWilKikU
Does anyone know if Randall Wallace wrote Braveheart the book or Braveheart the movie first?
'Tis a wonderful book of the hypocrisy of the teenage mind convinced it is one of the few to escape being a cretin. I loved the overused phrases. Haven't any of you had friends that said the same stupid expressions over and over until you wanted to beat them with various parts of their own recently-removed anatomy? A few years back anytime my friend's sister and her friends were around, every other word coming out was "gay". Gay this, gay that, gay you and your gay mother too. Somehow in their minds this repetition never occurred to them though.
Salinger's ability to crack into the habits, mannerisms, and all else of his characters has always impressed me, though like someone else I think I appreciated the Glass stories (like "Seymour: An Introduction") moreso than "Catcher".
And back to the topic of your average 17 year old vocabulary - where I work right now they are grading standardized writing tests for that very age group, and I assure you the lack of written eloquence is somewhat staggering. It varies greatly inside of every little area, but for the most part most students don't seem to have the desire to even try to express themselves in anything other than as few and as short words as possible. Those who do manage to want to voice themselves in say, a place such as this, aren't quite the routine; just as Holden, though he still cannot escape many teenage stereotypes, is not quite the routine... which really does make one typical.
Anyhoo, I'll have to paraphrase since it's been a few years, but "Liberate yourself from my vice-like grip." stands out in my mind.
I'm reading this book in my senior class. Along with reading it, I must answer specific questions, analytical questions. But, I don't get this one, check it out.
I read the chapter twice, the word "hat" is only mentioned ONCE, and the sexuality thing seems bogus. Am I wrong? Help me out guys.Quote:
Chapter 6: Is Holden secure sexually? Explain. By this time, Holden's red hunting hat has been mentioned repeatedly. Explain some plausible reasons for this and suggest a symbolic interpretations or two.
Also, if u want to re-red it
http://lib.ru/SELINGER/sel_engl.txt
qxdx--
Okay, I read Catcher in 10th grade, so I don't remember it in great detail. But the hat/sexuality thing does ring a bell, cause we had loooooong discussions about the symbolism of the stupid hat. It's like his security blanket, so I believe the way it went was: when the flaps are up he's feeling confident, when they're down he's uncomfortable, and when they're fastened under his chin he's really upset. I don't remember how often it was mentioned by chapter 6, but is that the chapter with Sunny the hooker? Or is it when what's-his-name, the sexy bastard roommate, is going on a date with Holden's old girlfriend? I seem to recall something about him suddenly pulling his hat down on his head at some remark about a girl, or when he's approaching a girl... so, no, he's not too confident. I don't want to get into specific situations, because I don't know how far you've gotten in the story, but basically : he needs his security blanket (hat) when he's thinking about sex, and he gets upset when a woman's "honor" is threatened.
Hope that helps.
Em*~
Yes, thanks! And dont worry about "spoiling" it for me or what ever, I could care less.
He's only a boy, he's not sexualy secure, who is at that age?
Honestly.
It's ridiculous to analyze a novel. I'm not saying anything bad toward this topic or qxdc. Really. I'm very sorry if i'm using any unpleasant words. (smile).But, for one thing Im sure about is that--the writter,himself,might not think about why he writes like that while he was writing. For some points,he didn't even notice himsely, I bet. It's natural. But,many years later, when we read it, we find troubles forourselves--Analyze! .....I don't understand. Nobody can analyze a novel. But, yes, people can talk. Share feelings and attitudes. That's good.
btw: <catcher in the rye> is my all time fav
Yeah, i think its silly. And our teacher is terrible!
"well, notice how he didn't toss the snowball? this means, he's insecure, ugly, loves nature, has sexual confusion, and the word "snow" rhymes with "no" which he says a lot, this means..."
it's like, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
snow rhymes with ho too;)
Ava, there's a difference between analysing and overanalysing. Some analysis is a good thing like the hat bit, reread it and see if Emily is wrong. Real people also have 'security blankets', thats one reason why Holden is easy to relate to. Salinger's strength is in his ability to add minute details like that to give his characters depth and make them more real. I don't think its fair to Salinger to say that he did all that on accident. But the whole snow rhyming bit is a bit out of whack. I said 'bit' way too much in this post.
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Originally posted by IWilKikU
Ava, there's a difference between analysing and overanalysing. Some analysis is a good thing like the hat bit, reread it and see if Emily is wrong. Real people also have 'security blankets', thats one reason why Holden is easy to relate to. Salinger's strength is in his ability to add minute details like that to give his characters depth and make them more real. I don't think its fair to Salinger to say that he did all that on accident. But the whole snow rhyming bit is a bit out of whack. I said 'bit' way too much in this post.
Agree...