Getting across you

Today I start with a different topic, something different than the usual, and a little divergent I am in putting across my ideas.

Today we are so much near and I feel we are connected in all respects. For example I do not know all of you guys and girls across so many frontiers and all kinds of gulfs and gaps but I can traverse all these frontiers, sociocultural, economic, political and geographical.

I am in Nepal, for example in a geography that is generally secluded or inaccessible in some respects, but I do not feel I am distant from all of you. I had a big barrier earlier and that was of course a linguistic one, but I have already transcended that limit and I can communicate with you across so many language communities through English, a link language.

Today I am really thrilled at the fact that I am linked to all, and people from all over the world communicate to me and share their ideas and opinions on wide spectrums of things and I have accesses across all knowledge boundaries.

The internet is a magic wand for me and I can have an access to wide ranges of ideas & experiences of people different domains and disciplines of learnings.

I feel I am lucky to be born and live in this period of history. I do not even choose to live in a particulalr domain for everywhere I feel at home. Some of my friends migrated to the US and I thought why should I after all think along these lines to migrate for the whole US is in my room or in my PC, shrank into a miniscule.

Souls do not know burdens , but still we are human beings not ethereal creatures.
The wholness of the human being cannot be defined or understood by just one aspect of your knowledge of him.

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Originally Posted by caddy_caddy

Souls do not know burdens , but still we are human beings not ethereal creatures.
The wholness of the human being cannot be defined or understood by just one aspect of your knowledge of him.

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Yes Caddy, you are right. No theory, no ideas can define man. Man or animal or plant all are wonders, subjects of curiosity and we do not know what these things are in substance. We observe phenomena, both social and natural but we never are sure about what they really are, and we observe only externals and can not see or figure out the essence of them.

I do not myself, in fact who I am in point of fact and all I know about myself as I define myself identifying with particular entities and nothing else. And defining myself or attaching the meaning thereto is a flaw.

Yet I enjoy exploring.

Externals vs. essence ? How are we really defined ? And how to deal with others : according to the externals or their essence ?
It is a real problem , at least to me. I define people by their essence; sometimes I feel it is unfair ; isnt so????:blush:
most of times I say it is fair: the external is only the manifestation of the essence (unless they are hypocrites):p

Beleive me it is not an enjoyable thing at all;getting across others is like walking in a field full of bombs.

bty do u think that the essence could be changed ???

Caddy, I am always confused. I do not know really, and despite the fact that I am educated, well read in philosophies, literature, economics and the like I do not know the basics of life and my being educated or uneducated does not make a bit difference, and I have nothing to present save my eccentricity and I am as unknown as any layperson.

But one thing is true I am very curious, and I know that I can not get at the bottom of truth and I will die being curious.

I take interests in varieties of things from literature to politics, to economics, to philosophies, ranges of disciplines and yet deep down I am totally empty.

Caddy, you are really interesting and I find you across at the other end of this globe as very interesting person, a restless one, a seeker and I do not know what.

I am a highly sensitive person and all I see around affects me and I feel at one with all phenomena.

I am really sorry , I've never meant to confuse you. I speak my mind usually and you always give me this chance through your hread. The way you write and think in is simple and deep at the same time.

u know things are not a matter of education or knowledge always .
The truth lies in the heart. God told us of somekind of great man " who have hearts to Conveive by " .

I don't think u are empty from within ,just follow your heart ; u have a big and clean heart although u don't speak of it :p:p

And my heart is telling me now that u are going to give me what your heart says about the essence :p:p:p:p

come on shake your heart a little and speak , I will give u later on what my mind offers on this issue

You are igniting within me a fire of vitality, something likened to a life-force that can drive anyone. Caddy, at times I feel meaningless in life and sometimes I find a great meaning. Or else I would not have been so close to you. I find you as a simple man, or woman I do not know in fact, with lots of humility and a person of curiosity and of course vitality. I do not know you save through your writings.

In fact I love all human beings, and other beings too. I am no so much of a theist and atheist, and in point of fact I do not want such ideas of theism and atheism to entangle me.

By birth I am a Hindu and by nature or inclination I am a person who believes in the universal spirit that permeates all beings and non beings too. At times I beleive there are sources of vitality in inanimate things. All are vitals and Nirvana is the capacity to understand this truth.

Caddy, I believe in work, and productivity. I am banker professionally and have the background of farming and I believe that no other professions or occupations have contributed to us to sustain and maintain life more than farmers and peasants. I consider farming to be the most sacred professions. Notwithstanding the fact that we are in a world of science and technology we have no other occupants who kept this world going and sustaining or offering us with the basics or vitals of life than farmers.

I do not know towards the end of my career with the bank I am thinking to have a simple life amidst simple rural folks, helping them with their farmings.

Caddy, since I found you as a very humble person and am sharing some of the most personal things. I could have done it through personal messages, but I felt there is nothing to keep from anybody under the sun.

Caddy smelled like trees ;don't u know her ?
I am a woman but somehow like Benji (The Sound and The fury):p
soo your education and knowledge didn't change your essence ;still within u there is a farmer that is rooted in the soil.
Maybe for that reason u feel that your life is meaningless despite your success;you are a truthfull man and u cannot do or enjoy things that contradict your real nature .
it seems that it is me who is getting across u loool
The problem is when you know what is in your essence ; some people are ignorant of it so they don't feel there is a gap between what they are doing and what they really are .
your knowledge and intellectual labor takes you to era that is far beyond the place u really belong to; it is really disturbing .
They say that time changes everything but what if we haven't changed really from within and still aware of this fact ???
For that reason I asked u about the change in the essence ; is it in our hands to do it ??
Honeslty I don't beleive that we can change it .
When we say we change the sex (initially normal), we are cheating our selves.actually we are changing only "the function" our organs do ; when we will be able to change our genes " the essence or our sex biologically" ; to change the XY to XX and The XX into XY so you're changing me really . Men do the functions women do " pregnancy and the natural nursing later on who knows hhhhhhhhhh but they still men.

And when we add the chimical materials to the sand for the agriculture we are changing its " function " only ; it is functioning as the soil functions ; and when we stop adding the chemical materials it will come back to its initial nature again : the soil is the soil and the sand is the sand.

and the good are good ; the evil are evil; when you change your behabiour doensnt affect your true nature.
so if u treat me very well and respectfully , do not harm me , love me : I simply reject it because it is not in your essence .
AM I STUPID TO THINK IN SUCH A WAY ??????:(
it really makes life difficult ; but what to do ; it is in my essence ; I can't change it :(:(:(

Very illuminating. 'Essence' is what makes behave or think the way we do. My essence is I was born into a farming community, grew, got education in a city and I got enmeshed in a world that does not speak of my essence or I feel desolate amidst the throng of people.

I do lots of things, no doubt, read, writer, work and the like. There are there are too many things that busy me with, the job, the family and friends, the future with fortunes and the like.

There are many essences indeed. Essences, values have mounted up in the course of living. My horizon is broadening, my dreamscape is expanding, and of course my domain is being stretchy, now with your arrival it is getting broader.

Yet the essence that I still dream of is returning to the village I came from. All I did in my babyhood is more vital and essential.

Caddy I in fact enjoy life, and every moment life offers me. I am comfortable in the city and with the people, the things and the environment. Yet that essence of simplicity in the village I came from is much more vital, that reality more palpable, and that dream intenser.

I am okay here and with the trees, the animals, alas the animals: the dogs, the cows, and the oxen have died, some of the people I lived with no longer are found there, some passed away and some migrated.

Yet I dream of piecing all together. There are some remnants, scraps and still I want to piece or fix them and breath life into them.

Caddy, I unwrapped the essence and you can feel it.

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Originally Posted by caddy_caddy

Souls do not know burdens , but still we are human beings not ethereal creatures.
The wholness of the human being cannot be defined or understood by just one aspect of your knowledge of him.

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I love this!! :)

I think for every human that can get across to themselves will get across to one other and until there is not understanding of any.

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Originally Posted by caddy_caddy

Souls do not know burdens , but still we are human beings not ethereal creatures.
The wholness of the human being cannot be defined or understood by just one aspect of your knowledge of him.

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I like!