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I personally hate Nihilism, but maybe some of the members of this forum are nihilists.
Check out this interesting website for nihilists: counterorder.com/index.html
Read through some of the articles and post your opinions. I got almost a cult like impression from this website.
'I personally hate Nihilism'. Why?
Because they believe that everything in the universe is baseless. Just like the website says, they believe in:
Death to Government
Death to God
Death to Ideology
Death to Purpose
Death to Culture
Death to Ego
Death to Money
Death to Love
Death to Philosophy
Death to Liberty
Death to Y
Death to Morality
The only thing I believe in on that list is death to ego and God (in part). The rest of it is just unreasonable. Lets see what happens when you put some of these "to death" in the real world.
counterorder.com/deathto.html
But sometimes it's necessary to destroy so that you can create something new.
So I don't think Nihilism must be negative.
Nietzsche is the "classical example" for a nihilist, but I don't think this is true. Because he doesn't only destroy, he also gave solutions or possibilities.
I have the luck to read Nietzsche in original language, therefore it's hardly possible to explain these thoughts in Nietzsche's words (I hope you apologize ;) ).
In my opinion nihilsm is a good possibility to wake up ones mind. If there is no god, no government, no ideology... everyone has to think about it, what is good, what is right - it's impossible to follow an authority. The individual person has to decide, what is true, what is right - and in my point of view this is very important.
Greetings
Nietzsche condemns nihilists, saying that they are the ruination of the world. Many people call him a nihilist because he said "God is dead". There are various interpretations of that quotation. I personally believe he meant that we have to carry on with our lives as if God doesn't exist. It's not really atheistic because one does not deny God's existence... we instead must forget about him because he has become "irrelevant to the bulk of humanity". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilis..._and_Nietzsche
I haven't read "Simulacra and Simulation" by Jean Baudrillard, and apparently it details "new nihilism". http://www.usp.nus.edu.sg/cpace/theo...llard/lee.html
oh yea, and loe, it must be pretty cool reading Nietzsche's work in the original language. I sometimes wish I knew other languages so I wouldn't have to worry about the validity of different translations.
the great thing about Nietzsche is that his philosophy does make us re-look at the world. I suppose he could be called a nihilist, but his philosophy contained elements of so many different values and ideologies. The best philosophy is when it can appeal to a large range of people, when we can intepret and expand it to the point of understanding ourselves better. The best question is the one with many other questions attached. That's why I love Nietzsche, his thoughts were so novel and strange and beautiful for being so.
I would love to read Nietzsche as the original! Same with reading Dotstoevsky.
It's a it bit contradictory for nihilists to have a representative website isn't it? A bit like anarchists voting! I reckon that website is just one or two lonely embittered souls. Nihilism can take many forms not many necessarily destructive - most are simply depressing or pessimistic. Some great writers are nihilistic - even if they would not use that term of themselves. There are many people who would look at life at some point and say with the writer of Ecclesiastes, 'All is vanity' and that is a nihilistic position - even if only temporarily held
“Nihilism is best done by professionals.”
- Iggy Pop
;)
If people were left to decide what was wrong and right for themselves the world would look a lot worse than how it looks now. Nihilism is a very bad idea.
Don't worry hyperborean, most nihilists commit suicide ;) If there is no point, then why keep on living?
I personally think it is a very depressing belief... I can't imagine believing that there is no purpose or point...
nihilism is a good idea in as much as it saw through morals and ideals as relative, changing, not absolutes. in order for a culture or system of thought to question itself, it needs to be able to step outside the typical systems it works within. nihilism created this outlet for candor about sacred ideals. its a bad idea in that it equated this with life being meaningless. life of course has a meaning, a very simple one, as neo said, "the purpose of life is to live."Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe123
Why not just believe in DEATH?Quote:
Originally Posted by hyperborean
Death to God: KINDA REASONABLE
Death to Purpose; LIFE HAS NO PURPOSE
Death to Ego; sure
Death to Money: why not?
Death to Love: it's already dead
Death to Philosophy: never
Death to Liberty: free will is only an ilusion
Death to Morality: few moral persons exist
nihislism is something not to be hated i beleive, and all as unltimatley all will be nihilatedandf thaat is what AI beleive, and confusion mest be wiped out once u realizeQuote:
Originally Posted by hyperborean
Why not? It is philosophy that brought about nihilism!!! :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakiryu
Humans lived in a paradise Earth - earth with all its richness and bounty - and then ruined it all by saying "Who made all this" :-)
Why? - "God" is one of the greatest ideas of humanity for all time :-)Quote:
Death to God: KINDA REASONABLE
Life creates it's own Purpose.Quote:
Death to Purpose; LIFE HAS NO PURPOSE
Yes - I am for all that. But I wonder if Ego is dead will we still have great literature?Quote:
Death to Ego; sure
Yes. We can all live on a Kibutz.Quote:
Death to Money: why not?
But will it practicable with billions of people? I think not.
Nay. It lives. It has finally separated itself from sex.Quote:
Death to Love: it's already dead
What is Free Will?Quote:
Death to Liberty: free will is only an ilusion
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Death to Morality: few moral persons exist
And they will light the sky by their very existence.
i agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by sharpe123