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OMG!! - The Horror, The Horror!

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I just came across this sidebar in an old issue of Men's Health magazine:

Is Your Hair Hung Over?

Instead of buying Just For Men, try cutting your alcohol intake to put the color back into your gray hair. In a new study in the Archives of Dermatology, people with drinking problems had twice as much prematurely gray hair as those who didn't overimbibe. Alcohol halts the production of melanocytes, stem celss that give hair its pigment, says Stuart Reece, M.D., the study author, who adds that downing just three drinks a day may be toxic to hair color over time. Already gray? Quaff less and your melanocytes may recover enough of their function to restore the pigment in your pate.
Oh my God, do you think this is why i'm going so gray? I've mentioned my greyness a number of times and obviously it irks me. It's quite possible this is true. And what the heck are melanocytes anyway?

In humans, melanin is the primary determinant of human skin color and also found in hair, the pigmented tissue underlying the iris, the medulla and zona reticularis of the adrenal gland, the stria vascularis of the inner ear, and in pigment-bearing neurons within areas of the brain stem, such as the locus ceruleus and the substantia nigra.

Dermal melanin is produced by melanocytes, which are found in the stratum basale of the epidermis. Although human beings generally possess a similar concentration of melanocytes in their skin, the melanocytes in some individuals and ethnic groups more frequently or less frequently express the melanin-producing genes, thereby conferring a greater or lesser concentration of skin melanin. Some individual animals and humans have very little or no melanin in their bodies, a condition known as albinism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin

Does this mean if a black man starts drinking heavily and often, he will start turning white? Was Michael Jackson an alcoholic afterall?

Actually I tend to believe the article. My father was definitely grey from early on and he drank a few glasses of wine every day, and some days more than a few. And once he had his major heart attack and was on medications and restricted from drinking, the color actually started coming back into his hair, even at the age of seventy. We used to remark at how his hair was returning to its natural balck and we just assume it was because he had reached a certain level of peace. But maybe it was the absence of wine.

Now I drink even less wine than my father, but I've been steadily going grey the last four years. Actually it was coincidental with being on Lit Net and so I thought it had something to do with your guys driving me batty. Seriously, I have been going grey the last few years. But i don't really drink that much. I will typically have a glass of wine with dinner and perhaps a second afterward (or one before dinner and then one with dinner), so i may have two on a night, and I don't do it every night. Here I was thinking I was having a glass for my health and I've actually been poisoning my hair. Does this mean I have to quit? I'm not an alcky, really. There's never any justice in life.

Hey I heard a good joke the other day and allow me to share it. What's the difference between Santa Claus and Tiger Woods?

Should I say it? Now don't get angry with me if it bombs. Ok, here goes: Santa stops at three Ho's. Ba-dum.



Isn't it amazing what happened to Tiger? About a year ago I actually had a blog on what a great athlete and role model he was. You can go back in my archives and find it if you wish to read it. I'm actually afraid to see what dribble I wrote. As it turned out it was all a facade. He was a fake, a phony, a fraud! The horror!
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  1. TheFifthElement's Avatar
    I'm just getting over the horror that you read Men's Health!

    I think genetics has much more to do with it Virgil. Going grey is more common if you have dark hair. I started going grey when I was 17 and I didn't even drink then, but my hair colour has changed twice in my life; I started as a strawberry blonde, then when I was about 4 my hair went dark brown and I developed, lots of, freckles which are also formed by melanin. I've never really tanned, which is also to do with melanin distribution. Now my freckles are fading and my hair is greying and I think this is not a coincidence!
    If your Dad went grey, genetics would seem the likely cause for you going grey and perhaps his remarkable recovery of hair colour coincided with his discovery of Just for Men We all have our secrets.
    Maybe you're just getting old
  2. Themis's Avatar
    The article might be true but then it says "… says Stuart Reece, M.D., the study author, who adds that downing just three drinks a day may be toxic to hair color over time."
    First, there's a "may" in there and seconds, what kind of three drinks" are we talking about? Do wine and whiskey affect hair color the same? Or rather, may they?
    My father drinks wine on most days and he retained his hair color for a long time. On the other hand, my gym teacher didn't seem to drink at all and he turned white at about forty.
    I think genetic endowments play a big role here.

    Oh, and perhaps this'll cheer you up: I know a lot girls who are just starting to get interested in a man if he's got grey hair.
  3. Maryd.'s Avatar
    Ah hellooooo! Some of us have being greying, ever since we were 21 years old. All I can say is "Thank God for hair dye." Not that I need it... (What is wrong with me????)
  4. Virgil's Avatar
    Yes ladies, I'm sure genetics has mostly to do with it, but given how my father's hair started redarkening after he stopped having wine I would have to say there is something to it.

    I do read Men's Health Fifth. I find it interesting but I mostly get it for new workout exercise ideas. A guy I car pool with thought I was gay when he saw me with it. He says a lot of gay men buy the magazine to look at all the muscular, athletic male bodies.
  5. motherhubbard's Avatar
    my husband and I are both going grey and we don't drink- maybe two drinks a year. We often think that if we had a few more we wouldn't be as grey. I've been blaming the kids!
  6. The Comedian's Avatar
    Virgil -- read this about gray-hair and drinking makes me a little nervous. . . .I've noticed a few gray stragglers in my hair recently, which I've attributed to my children. God, I hope it's not not Pabst.
  7. Virgil's Avatar
    I guess it depends how much you drink Comedian. I'm sure it's a secondary effect and that genetics certainly overwhelm the phenomena. But I do think it's a contributor, though you're younger i think. I'm not sure I know how old you are, but you look young in your picture.
  8. Virgil's Avatar
    Something I've noticed throughout this discussion. Some people spell the word "grey" and some spell it "gray." My natural tendency would have been to spell it "grey" but because that Men's Health spelled it "gray" I thought I was in error. I looked it up just now in Merriam-Websters and they listed under "grey" but says "gray" is a variant. Interesting.
  9. Themis's Avatar
    As far as I know, I was taught to write it as "grey". We were taught British English at school and I think I read somewhere that "gray" is American English.
  10. Virgil's Avatar
    Themis, you're right:
    Grey (outside the U.S. and some parts of the U.S.) or gray (some U.S. only – see spelling differences) describes the tints and shades ranging from black to white.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey

    I'm surprised Merriam-Websters didn't mention it. I wonder if the northeast is the part of the US that uses "grey"

    I have to say that wikipedia is excellent. What a contribution to humanity that is.
  11. 1n50mn14's Avatar
    Virgil, my mom was going gray at 22, it all comes in due time. . If there is a correlation between drinking and going gray for ladies, I'm screwed. Go buy some Just For Men . Nobody will ever know!

    My boss told me that joke at the work Christmas party. I spat eggnog across the living room.
  12. Virgil's Avatar
    You're the only person to comment on that joke Becca. I thought it was funny too when i heard it.

    I've been really tempted to get the Just For Men, but whoever I ask say I look better with the grey. I think I will try it one day.
  13. skib's Avatar
    Virgil, I think you look just swell with your gray. If it bothers you, just up the wine dose a bit and you'll forget all about it!
    P.S- What do Michael Jackson and Walmart have in common? PM me if you're intrigued . . . it might not sit well with the Jackson fans out there.
  14. Virgil's Avatar
    Ok, I will PM you.
  15. qimissung's Avatar
    Virgil I thought your joke was funny. My mother has a similar one. Santa says "ho ho ho," and Tiger Woods says "where where where?"

    Maybe one of you guys could PM me what Wal-Mart and Michael Jackson have in common. I hope I can sleep tonight, is all I've got to say!

    Virgil, I'm sure you look very distinguished with gray hair. What does your significant other say?

    The only opinion that really matters, though, is that of the man in the mirror.
  16. Virgil's Avatar
    Thanks Qimi. She thinks I should dye it. I'll send you that walmart joke. It's a doozy!!
  17. Janine's Avatar
    My hair is going mousy something; not exactly gray but more like brown mixed with white hairs, lots of white hairs everywhere now. I just bought a rinse tonight to try and pep up the color. It was funny, I was in the aisle of the pharmacy checking out hair rinses and this nice saleslady was trying to determine which was not permanent. I can't do permanent because I get a perm. So then this customer came by and she was a hairdresser - wow, what luck! She steered me to a good product and color and so I will give it a whirl soon. I am hoping it gives my lifeless hair a bit of a lift in color and shine. I think, Virgil, that you look good with the salt and pepper hair; gray will look great on you, too...look at Richard Gere - he looks gorgeous in gray. I believe it's more heridity than wine intake. Go gray gracefully and I am sure you will look distinquished. You might even get a raise!
  18. stephofthenight's Avatar
    I think genetics, and other factors play a major role in it more than wine... my family drinks about a bottle of wine a day on minum... and not a single one has greys. my 80 yo grampa still has the original color so liquor and gray do not necissarialy corrospond. as for being drove batty, my mommy always said I was the reason for her few gray heairs... never the less, a interesting article. And I find that I feel sorry for Tigers kids. they are not quite old enough to understand but its being rubbed in their faces. And the media is totaly running anychance he has of reconciling with his wife. not that he didnt screw things up, but with the media rubbing it in her face he doesnt have a chance to salvage his marriage, or family.
  19. AuntShecky's Avatar
    Hey, Virgil, here's another Yuletide joke
    for you, one that's even older than I am:

    Why aren't there any Christmas pageants in Hollywood.?

    It's too hard to find three wise men and a virgin in La La Land.
  20. Buh4Bee's Avatar
    Hey Virg, I loved this entry. I wrote a long reply and it was erased!!!
    So a quick sum up, it's OK to go gray.
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