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A Mirror Floating in Water

Childhood, Freedom and Innocence

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You know, I've been thinking, how interesting it is that children really are the only people who are actually free. It seems that once innocence is lost, freedom is lost. We set ourselves up into our own private prisons once we hit adolecense, and then we set ourselves up in our sociological prisons once we become adults. We get up, we work, we get paid, we eat, we sleep, we die. That's all there is to the average person's life most of the time.

This hypnosis of apathy cannot be found in children, for obvious reason of course; growth development and so on. But it seems, that if one were to place a person in an isolated state his or her's whole life, wouldn't he, upon coming out, still be like a child? Of course he would have gone through all of the natural biological stages of puberty, adolesence and adulthood, but, since he would have no knowledge, nothing, wouldn't he retain his own inner unconscious behavior? It would be as if he had come out, lacking a super-ego.

All psychology aside, it most certainly seems that the freesest people on earth are the ones who smile at the sight of puppies and who chase each other around for no reason what so ever. There is no purpose in a childs life, no sort of meta-imperative, they just act. This lack of purpose does not come out of any sort of depression or Hamletian pondering. It comes out of ignorance, a lack of knowledge of knowledge (and thus a lack of anxiety) and a lack of knowledge of action (and thus a lack of dread). They possess no self-conscious super-ego, shaming them for mistakes they make.

Dostoyevsky once said that "consciousness is the root of all suffering", and so many people in the world know this. Many people also know the Nietzschean postulation that the more you suffer, the more knowledgable or powerful you become. But what is knowledge in the face of blissful ignorance? In literautre, writers have dreamed about creating an archetype for their nostaliga, though no archetype is better, than Shakespeare's Falstaff, who was himself a big raputious child. He seems to achieve a Christ-like level of innocence, but a lack of moral assumtions. Falstaff was a child in an adults world and he loved those adults who had one thing he didn't, which was physical pre-maturity. But since adults live in a world of time, of schedules and of nine to five work days, Falstaff was abandoned to lonliness, he being the only child left who had not grown up.

The only other figure in literature who surpasses Falstaff's ideal of innocence, is Christ, who paradoxically had no superego, but had moral imperitives and judgements. In the gospels what seemed to make Christ God was not that he healed the sick or made the dead arise, but that he had the inachievable perfection of having complete innocence and freedom, and be thirty-three. It was as if he had surpassed knowledge and had remained as young as a child.

Maybe this is why Hamlet died so tragically, for he had reached a point of total conviction and self-absolution, he died with the memory of his sufferings and the nostaligic memory of the childhood past that we all have. Hamlet too, could escape everything, but he couldn't escape the scar of "to be or not to be", the scar of truth.

But life really is just that; it is the question that underlines all of life. Childhood memory seems to exist in a different world, an eternal world, perfect, like Plato's forms, unmoving, unattainable, for simply thinking of it, makes it disappear in the voidness of thought and time.
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  1. Virgil's Avatar
    How is it that children "are the only people who are actually free"? They are forced to go to school whether they want to or not, they are given assignments and homework whether they want to or not, they are punished for bad behavior, forced to have bedtimes, prohibited from certain media, not allowed to drive a car or have an alcoholic beverage until they reach a certain age, and told to eat all the vegetables. Doesn't sound like freedom to me. I think you're romanticizing.
  2. Dark Muse's Avatar
    I have to say, I myself never was one to buy into children being innocent either. I have seen enough evidence to counter that idea. They are horrid beasty little monsters, who know full well when they are being brats and set out to do so with intent and purpose.
  3. DanielBenoit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil
    How is it that children "are the only people who are actually free"? They are forced to go to school whether they want to or not, they are given assignments and homework whether they want to or not, they are punished for bad behavior, forced to have bedtimes, prohibited from certain media, not allowed to drive a car or have an alcoholic beverage until they reach a certain age, and told to eat all the vegetables. Doesn't sound like freedom to me. I think you're romanticizing.
    Maybe. . .But we too are confined to work, whether we want it or not (not everyone gets their dream job). It is true that there is more freedom given to an adult, being able to drink an alcoholic beverage or drive a car. But what does that mean to a person who has driven a car or drank alcohol for years? Things get old as we get old, and the worl becomes more familiar and bland.
    For children, the world is new, filled with endless questions and curiosities. It is not that they are free in a interactive sense, but in a psychological sense. They have not developed that tedious apathy that we all seem to possess from everyday life. Every day is new to them and nothing within them is self-infliected, they have no sense of self-consciousness, thus they have no sense of knowledge or action, they merely are, in being and time. They are totally free, metaphysically, for they do not yet live in the confined world of consciousness and the superego, which limits their primordial senses and instincts, their deep aprecitation of the world.
    As for innocence; that is a collorary of their lack of a developed superego. As one can say, they don't know any better, yes children are little brats sometimes, that is the egotistical instintive and reactionary part of them, which no less exists in adults. Kids just seem more annoying because they whine and make noises. Adults, who have a more developed sense of inner-conscious, pout and build walls around themselves.
    The main point of this essay was simply just to express the nostaligic perfection that seems to be childhood, in which we were all once free of worries, stress and hate.
  4. Dark Muse's Avatar
    But I think the "they don't know any better" is a touch bogus. I know from my own neice, she knows perfectly well when she is doing something she is not suppose to be doing, that is exzactly why she does it, to see what she can get away with.

    When she is at preschool she is very well behaved and doesn't get into trouble, and her teachers all think she is an angel. When she is at home she is the AntiChrist incarante. So she knows perfectly well.
  5. mtpspur's Avatar
    I'm with you DM re guttersnipes or um hmmmm--kids. LOL
  6. Virgil's Avatar
    They are totally free, metaphysically, for they do not yet live in the confined world of consciousness and the superego, which limits their primordial senses and instincts, their deep aprecitation of the world.
    Oh. OK. If you say so.
  7. TheFifthElement's Avatar
    I think I can kind of see where you're coming from Daniel, but I'm not sure that children are as 'innocent' or lacking in consciousness as you think. Neither are children brats, they are simply people learning about the world. Perhaps what adults have which children don't is a better sense of where the boundaries are and less of a desire to push them. In a sense adults become worn down by experience. But in my experience children become self-conscious or perhaps it is better to say self-aware at a very early age, probably around 3. And awareness of death seems to hit at around 5 and at that point I don't think you can say they are 'innocent' or 'free'. Certainly my 5 year old can worry and feel stressed. Hatred, less so but then I think people often use the word hate when they mean dislike. It's a commonly confused word.
    But I do hear what you're saying about apathy and routine. My sense of apathy was quashed after my son was born. In a sense he reminded me what it was like to look at the world as something amazing, exciting and wonderous, full of possibilities. He reminded me not to get stuck in the idea that I know how everything is. He reminded me to ask 'why'. This, I think, is the freedom you're referring to. And if you mean innocence in opposition to experience then I'd agree but then, at the same time, I'm not entirely sure if I'm understanding you correctly
  8. DanielBenoit's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFifthElement
    I think I can kind of see where you're coming from Daniel, but I'm not sure that children are as 'innocent' or lacking in consciousness as you think. Neither are children brats, they are simply people learning about the world. Perhaps what adults have which children don't is a better sense of where the boundaries are and less of a desire to push them. In a sense adults become worn down by experience. But in my experience children become self-conscious or perhaps it is better to say self-aware at a very early age, probably around 3. And awareness of death seems to hit at around 5 and at that point I don't think you can say they are 'innocent' or 'free'. Certainly my 5 year old can worry and feel stressed. Hatred, less so but then I think people often use the word hate when they mean dislike. It's a commonly confused word.
    But I do hear what you're saying about apathy and routine. My sense of apathy was quashed after my son was born. In a sense he reminded me what it was like to look at the world as something amazing, exciting and wonderous, full of possibilities. He reminded me not to get stuck in the idea that I know how everything is. He reminded me to ask 'why'. This, I think, is the freedom you're referring to. And if you mean innocence in opposition to experience then I'd agree but then, at the same time, I'm not entirely sure if I'm understanding you correctly
    Yeah, sorry for my semantic ambiguity, you got it exactly right concerning innocence.

    I agree with what you've said, and found much of it interesting, but I suppose what I mean by consciousness is, a knowledge of the world out there. That's why I used Hamlet as an example; the prince is aware of all of the nonsense and bs of the corrupted throne and thus falls into despair. This consciousness comes about when we learn that the world is not all just a field of pretty flowers.