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That's the saddest thing ever; that man should be imprisoned. I hope his dog bites him, too. But then, of course, it will be the dog that will get put down...even though it should be him...
What a beastly creature to treat his dog like that. Some people don't deserve anything good an innocent in their lives.
Depending on the day, I probably wouldn't have said anything because I am cowardly and tend to run away from confrontational situations, but maybe it is better that you did say something. You probably saved his poor Daisy from a few extra slaps just then.

That is so horrible. I don't know why there are people like that out there. In your place I would have been tempted to react just like you did but I am not sure I would have done so because I'm too shy, even more with people like that, but it depends, sometimes I go and yell (and my shyness tends to diminish wth time, I express my opinions more and more) so I don't know what I would have done. But if I hadn't done anything I would have felt horrible, that's for sure. I guess I would have yelled at him, actually, because seeing that would have made me go beyond any shyness. You know, my step-father is the same kind of man when it comes to beat up dogs. I can't count the number of times he beat my dogs. He even put electric wires next to the flowers so that the dogs would get kind of electrocuted if they approached the flowers. Once my Mabrouck got electrocuted, and I was all alone in the house and I will never forget the screams that got out his throat. I ran outside and he was all shaking, just like me and when my step father came back I told him I was going to kill him if he ever put this wire again. My mother agreed with me but was too scared of my step father to say anything, and I was young and I guess I was scared of him too because he somehow made me understand that I would regret it if I did something in favor of the dogs. But I still feel sh!tty, because I should have stopped that before. Just like all the times when my step-father hit the dogs and they yelled too. I think I am horrible because you know what my dogs mean to me and I should have done something. Once I unplugged the wire and I also yelled at my step father a lot of times and I repaired the mess my dogs made sometimes so that they would not be hit or I accused myself at their place, but that was not enough. Anyway, I'm happy you did what you did, and give a kiss to Pepper for me.

My first reaction to this very sad story is one of shame that it was a man who was treating Daisy that way, and that it is always men who behave like that. I don't think there was anything anyone could have done that would be more effective than what you did, unless it was another man - bigger and more capable of violence than the one in your story, because that man was almost certainly a bully in the way he behaved with anyone smaller or weaker than him.

How sad that you had to witness this - and how much sadder that Daisy had to experience it and probably has done before.

I’m a terrible spineless chicken who avoids confrontation at all cost. I would have just asked some other dog walker to do something. (now for a child I would have intervened or I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself and I’m sure that is how you feel about the doggies- luckily for Daisy) I would never have thought about the dog bite, but I wish I did think of little things to say like that. To be honest, I’m no good in a fight. I can’t think of any little spiteful thing to say, I end up sounding like Peewee Herman. Now I have a friend that is so kind and mild, but in fight she is vicious! I would have never believed it if I had not witnessed it. I don’t know where that ability comes from, but I wish I had it. She says I’m better off without it because I never have to work to hold my tongue against it. If she or my husband are going to have a confrontation I just beg them to let me go wait in the car before they start. I get sweaty and sick at my stomach. This is probably why my husband and I don’t fight- I mean at all- ever. You cracked me up with your well whishes for this man’s future. I hope I can remember it if I’m ever in a situation to use it.

But, Tonya, I don't understand where the difference between a child and a dog is? A dog is not less important than a child to me.

I know you feel that way, Sweets. I suppose that since the future is in our children I have more invested in them. You can love your doggies tremendously and still love your children more. You know, if you had two children and one kept biting the other you wouldn’t get rid of the biting child, but if you had a dog that kept biting your child you couldn’t keep it. There is a difference, and it’s pretty significant. I’m glad that there are animal lovers, I just love children more than animals. I suppose I’m not much of a romantic.

Actually Tonya I don't feel very much that our future is in our children, because in a way I see our children as being new humans who will contribute even more to damage the planet. I have never felt that humans were more important than animals, I don't understand why they would be. Now just like you I am biased because I relate better to animals than to humans, and I see how you love your children and even children in general, and that is a beautiful thing, we are similar in a way. It's just that I would not put humans first. I don't think they are superior to animals. The biased thing is me would go so far as putting animals first because they don't damage the world as humans do, but I know this attitude is not necessarily a good thing, that's not fair, so I will just say that animals and humans should at least be equal.

Thanks for giving me your feedback, friends. My husband was most annoyed with me for "getting involved", but he is that way whenever I stick out my neck for something that he feels is not my business. I can't help myself -- I am usually reserved, honest I am. But something snaps in my head when I see the helpless being bullyed, and I don't really think what if the situation comes back on me (my husband's point -- what if the brute in the forest started to hit me, since he was all pumped up with anger). Well, if that man were to have hit me, I'd not have laid and taken it like Daisy was trained to do, obviously (grrrrrr!!) -- I'd likely run away from him and call 9-1-1 -- of course I'd not get into a battle with this person. Anyhow, I guess I'm not going to change, and I find that if someone does step in, the others do follow (as in the other dog walkers/joggers did stop and head in our direction ... which shows to the brute that I did have some backup, that what he was doing was totally unacceptable, etc.). Dang -- I am headed for The Path in a few moments, and I have to say that I am a little nervous that this bully be there. It is one thing to be brave in an on-the-spot situation, but to head to the Path knowing that this guy could be there .... Well, got my cell phone and that path is just as much for my use as for his.... we shall see ... Love K♥z

Please be very careful. I understand your husband's reaction even if I still agree with what you did. Have a good walk, and you should post a pic of Pepper once!

Kizzie,

As I said before, I'll say again: your kindness, which you continue to display, means more to me than you'll ever know. The days simply dissolved into weeks, the weeks into months, and I felt that I was merely out of sight and mind at Lit.Com..
No illness or similar tragedy claimed my time and caused by absence, but rather work on my website (The Electric Egg Cream) and work on my novel (On Borrowed Time In Brooklyn). In any event, I apologize for my discourtesy towards you...you deserved better from me. Thank you for being there.

Regards and Love,
Michael

You did the right thing. I don't think I would have done anything different. I think the first time a warning is in order. If you see him do it again calling the police would be in order. But I don't know if they can do anthing either. Without actual physical damage to the dog, I don't think it will carry into anything significant. It's hard enough to get child abuse recognized. Animal cruelty is even harder.

That poor dog. what a miserable man he is.

I salute your defending the dog. Other then the one slap at Thanksgiving on Onyx he lives a very spoiled life. Bullies are ultimately cowards. he couple of times I've run into them I find a steady eye contact and a firm tone has been effective. Best to stay beyond arm's reach or go for the eyes first.

Kiz,I love you for your courage, and your compasonate nature. I can only dream of seeing a person beat their dog in front of me. The moment they take out their anger on me I would begin beating them. I try not to fight, but the abuse of animals is intolerable. Although the dog didn't thank you, I will share its thoughts with you... "Thank you for your kindness, I wish you were my owner!" I don't doubt your Pepper is a lucky dog, as I don't doubt your husband is a lucky man. Love ya, B

You stood up for that poor animal when many people would have just turned the other way. Sometimes that is all that you can do in a situation, and maybe just maybe he'll think twice before striking his pet again. Being the owner of two dogs, one who has been severly beaten by someone before he came to us, I may have went a bit crazy. That or I may have just let my dog take a bite out of him. I would like to see him raise a hand to my Keeghan and still have it attached;) Not that Keeghan is mean or anything, but he would not be tolerant of that sort of violence. I only hope that he finally will be bitten by his dog, but the sad fact is that poor Daisy will still pay the price for it. Take Care, Meg

Kudos for standing up for the dog. Honestly, if he didn't want his dog to take off on him-why not use a leash-even a real long one. there'e no real reason to scold a dog like that out in public.