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integration of knowledge (a mystical experience!!!

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Well, I've sort of got to the highest point yet. But then, it's either my highest point of knowledge or sheer insanity, and I realize they're quite close. If I explain this you might think it's insanity; but that's fine with me. It won't bother me if you try to negate me, as I've integrated knowledge better than this. It's like how will you think you are beautiful if everyone thinks you're ugly? This is one of the points of integration of knowledge, to transcend this. To be what you know, or what your knowledge shows.

Now I've thought a little bit about what truth is, and I realized (for one) that I don't know truth by first principles so much as that I have a continuum of thoughts, and I value some as true, and I relate some to others; and in general this is mostly an intuitive process. Sometimes, quite often, I will perceive an idea as awakening possibilites or closing them off. Expanding the mind or shutting out options. So on and so forth- this isn't so important.

Integration of knowledge is yet to be defined (by me), I suppose. It sort of means "feeling" knowledge. It has a lot to do with affirming life. It has to do, as I said, with achieving something from the knowledge. Don't we mostly think in possibilites instead of absolutes? Do we know things so much as dance around them and tag them down with spears of possibility? Am I good or evil? Well, I [I]could[/I] be good, virtuous, good; but only if I [I]am [/I](or do). Anyway enough of that-- integration of knowledge is when we learn from somoene and it gives us more of an affirmation of ourself, knowledge, and ideas, and its opposite of course is when we're negated, and if we are all alone, how can we do as much as if we have others affirming us? But then, Nietzsche was alone mostly. Maybe I am too, we shall yet see.


So the idea that I'm speaking of as my highest point, as my greatest affirmation, is that division is illusion; not metaphorically, but literally so. In buddhism it's taught that phenomena is illusion. I've come to the conclusion that this is not metaphorically but literally true. Without any drugs, I've come to the state where I can take in all information and integrate it together. This makes me aware of practically everything, and I can see it all down to great detail. I'm speaking of physical the environment- solid, real, things like this. Can these things be an illusion? What type of experience could possibly show that they are literally an illusion?

Well, I believe they are, and further, it is an illusion that we are separate. Now, it seems obvious that we are physically separate from each other, by space, by reality, or whatever. But is this really true? Without further ado, I'll try to explain.

Before now, I thought that saying phenomena was illusion was only because it is temporary compared with eternals, dream-like because of our difficulty in distinguishing consciousness from reality. Now I think it's literally true because of an experience I had. Phenomena, time, and division all literally illusion. What I experienced was a certain knowledge. I will not say it is true, but for certain reasons I believe it's true.

The interesting thing is that I was experiencing this, I was having a so-called mystical experience, and suddenly it became a shared mystical experience. I was at work. Customers were coming to the window. I had a knowledge-- and they shared it. I had come at the precise moment that they had to my 'true self,' to my self-longer than my life- self, and had the mystical experience of being at one with everything; outside of all the phenomena; and I will be damned if these people who were with me did not feel the same thing. [I][b]I began to see it[/b][/I]. How can I say what I saw!!?!?!? I saw these people [b][i]come into existence[/b][/i] before my eyes. I would have the thought of a person and they would come to the window. And I had the knowledge, the idea that I'd created them, and I could see they shared it. So I now stipulate that these people are everywhere!! They come out of the woodwork just to smile at you!! What I mean is, they will let you into their circle, they will let on that they have a shared knowledge with you. After this experience at work, I experienced it in the library too. So for these reasons, I believe that division and phenomena are not just metaphorically, but literally illusion. This was a mystical experience had with no drugs. No LSD. This is why I believe in God- because of this; and a similar experience I had about God, perhaps leading up to this.

Everything we experience; impacts us through our senses; and everything that we sense is infused with meaning. Well, the meaning builds on itself. Is any of it real? We see things, and it appears to be entirely consistent; reality is always there, after we stop believing in it. But how do we know? Well this question gives rise to the interesting place we can go to, where reality is entirely different. When we experience everything like this, when we experience such a reality, the knowledge is immediately in our minds, and this is seen by others; either ignored by someone who doesn't know, or seen and recognized by someone who does. Such a shared mystical experience only requires both people to go to that place-- where the "everything" is realized, where knowledge is integrated, where, perhaps, the self is realized. What, truly, is the obstacle to this? I saw, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that when the illusion is perceived to literally be illusion, the possibilities become endless. Then phenomena is illusion, and all of our false concepts fade away.

It's like, when we see something is illusion; when we really do, then we see something real in comparison. The world fades and spins away out of existence, it doesn't exist any more.


This is a mystical experience I will never forget; and if it has been enjoyable to read, I'm thankful of your interest. Thx guys.


Just a little bit more, then I'll sign off and let the snowball roll. ;)

Nietzsche wrote about integration of knowledge. I may study him again sometime, but I don't really need his guidance. He was a genius, a genius writer too, beyond all doubt. Nowadays we have our own advantages (and Nietzsche lacked many of these)-- I'll give just one for instance. Well, two, okay.

"her fiery green gown sneers at the grassy ground."
in reference to Queen Envy, in Hendrix's song Axis: Bold As Love. I think these words have meaning, rather than being nonsense!! :D They signify envy, jealousy, as it is manifested in our shared consciousness.....what a thing! I had a dream about it; envy, or green, was crawling everywhere, or oozing, or seeping, or however you would describe. I was trying to slash her down with a sword, but every time I cut through her she would laugh and say "You've not hurt me, but you only let me bring out a new form, which you cannot even slice with your sword!!" Interesting?

The other is

"I received a message from my brother, across the water, he sat laughing as he wrote 'the end's in sight'". From Night Flight by Zeppelin. :) Good song and one of my favourite lyrics; I won't say what I think it is here. ;)

So thx for reading. Bye.
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  1. 's Avatar
    I'm curious why you'd have to inject the notion of knowledge in making the case of a life-affirming principle. I think you may be confusing consciousness with knowledge. Consciousness is already "integrated" in the sense of the structures the self uses to disclose itself as a self and phenomena. Knowledge does not equate with self-affirmation, why do you think this? What you're referring to is experience. Consider that this "knowledge" you speak of always occurs retrospectively in the sense that we process an experience and assemble the ideas into a logical, identifiable foundation that becomes a system we use as a rationalizing agent. But it's rather silly to be speaking about any nexus of ideas as some grandiose, overarching integrated knowledge that affirms life. Life affirms life. And if you're interested in a serious discussion about integrated knowledge, then I highly recommend Edward O. Wilson's Consilience, that book will knock your socks off and aid you in dispensing of these myths your thinking is mired in at present. This so-called mystical experience you had recently is, in my mind, the most troubling. In this you became a godhead who manifests individuals in a store window at your whim, individuals who just so happen to think like you. The experience itself, incidentally, occurs "outside" the frame of phenomena. What you experienced, actually, were delusions of grandeur, and I fear that if you continue down this path that you will begin to believe that these convoluted thoughts are truths in themselves. Do you know what comes after, eh? The dawn of a new religion. Your name isn't Zarathustra by any chance, is it?
  2. NikolaiI's Avatar
    Well, thank you for your comment, Jon, but if you can't let go of an idea, then it becomes unflexible thinking. This had nothing to do with grandiose delusion. I assure you it had nothing to do with delusions of grandeur. I can't fight with you on this, and please don't reply if that's all you have to say. True you were respectful in this comment, but the gist of what your saying is clear. I don't know how well I can explain this, but I'll keep continuing to try. First, let me say that I don't fully understand what I experienced. But what I experienced was a shared knowledge- one of infinite possibilites. The way I experienced this was in the most profound, GOOD, way I've ever experienced anything. Please drop your accusations of my delusion. If you do not I will find it highly insulting. This is of course something that I should be able to transcend; do you not see the difference between negating and affirming each other? I'm trying to open you up to an experience of knowledge, which opens the door of unlimited possibility; into a new way and reality. Look, just because a thought pops into our minds, doesn't make it true. You know how we breathe the air of everything? I feel like this means something.
  3. NikolaiI's Avatar
    I cannot [I]defend[/I] this, Jon, it's precisely the most undefendable position there is. I'm sure that's why it doesn't exist. But what I realized that time and space are literally illusion, division is literally illusion; so that when we break free of these-- well, for one, God is there-- and secondly, other individuals are there, too. It's like when you realize something, and then it turns out the universe was organizing itself to show you some miracle right at the time of that realization. If you wish to understand that which you claim to and are berating, you may wish to read my post on philosophical literature "joyous cosmology 02.12.08"
  4. NikolaiI's Avatar
    In fact, I can see that this might deteriorate badly; it's all up to you, really. I could be wrong, but it seems like you are leading up to a complete negation of me-- for one, I have these troubling and dangerous delusions (which I do not-- as I said, attachment to the phenomena is the delusion, the fact that it is literally untrue is reality) and seconldy you've called my ideas "silly".......
  5. NikolaiI's Avatar
    I am not trying to be mean, Jon. I hope you can reply with some respect because we can't get respect ourselves if we don't respect. Although in this case-- god, why did I do this-- I am thinking that people reading this will hate me. I'm like sparrow now. But I can't be hated-- if I am, this will kill me. Does no one understand this kind of thing? What the hell did I do?
  6. NikolaiI's Avatar
    And all I'm saying that the normal experiences we have can be translated differently, understood differently, I didn't mean to shout it into your ears; this is my blog for heaven's sake don't come here and attack me. Everything has meaning. Walking down the carpet has meaning, and that meaning has meaning, and so walking down the carpet is more truly walking down the carpet in some kind of dream.
  7. NikolaiI's Avatar
    Speaking and writing have meaning. That meaning has meaning, so they can be experienced differently--
  8. NikolaiI's Avatar
    But speaking and writing...should have no more meaning than anything else.
  9. NikolaiI's Avatar
    Oh did I write too many messages on my blog is it disturbing??? oh....wait........I just had a thought....it must be my final conclusion....Oh...gee...I can't get out of this rut I'm stuck in....oh gee....it must reflect my inner sanctum....oh my lord I'm crazy....save me save me.
  10. kiz_paws's Avatar
    Nik, sometimes having people question our thoughts/experience-relations causes us to re-affirm what we take as our own personal truths. I don't really believe that Jon's words were an attack, but more, he is questioning your experience through his own truths, you know? When a person blogs an entry, they need to be open to the thoughts of the reader, and not feel slighted if various aspects of the entry make for conversation that questions the entry itself. Hope I am making sense, Nik. But I truthfully didn't see any attack, but more, Jon's musings on what you said. Also, no one here hates you, you take things much too hard, my friend. You are certainly allowed to vent in your own blog! And you don't need saving, you have many gifts that you freely share with us here -- we like it! Cheers, Kizzo
  11. NikolaiI's Avatar
    I'm trying to delete my comments but it's not letting me.
  12. NikolaiI's Avatar
    This is truly a horrible forum for communication-- I mean the blogs, since we can't even use the return key...it makes it difficult. Okay, a reply to john in a second.
  13. kiz_paws's Avatar
    Nik, they are all gone now. Wiped clean. Maybe you might want to convert this entry into a Private Blog Entry, if you feel strongly about it.
  14. NikolaiI's Avatar
    No, Jon's comment was not respectful. He began by saying, with a bit of levity, that my ideas were just plain wrong-- about integration of knowledge, and also with levity, suggesting I was confusing different concepts. This shows that with levity he already thought my ideas were useless and wrong, and of course, how can you say something like this if you don't already think you're right about practically everything? How can you say something and believe it if you don't? Well, so fine. So Jon thinks he knows more than me. It's completely irrelevent. Fine. Jon thinks I'm delusional. All I can say is that I already said that attachment to the phenomena in this illusion is what is delusional. I already know beyond doubt that phenomena and division is at least metaphorically true; now I had this experience which showed me it is literally true as well. I know it's beyond the imagining of someone like Jon to say that-- when we perceive the dream, [I][b]unlimited possibility [/I][/b]arises. The fact that this might seem like self-delusion to Jon is fine- it doesn't matter.
  15. NikolaiI's Avatar
    This would get too cluttered if I didn't delete these.
  16. NikolaiI's Avatar
    Jon wrote: Oh I get it, either I agree with you and kiss your *** or you delete my reply to your post. Better to censor than to expose your ideas for what they are, bull****. .
  17. NikolaiI's Avatar
    Jon wrote: "Oh I get it, either I agree with you and kiss your *** or you delete my reply to your post. Better to censor than to expose your ideas for what they are, bull****. ."
  18. NikolaiI's Avatar
    No Jon. I deleted my reply to yours also, and several of Kiz's, but these weren't acts of violence against myself or Kiz. Nor was it against you just now.