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Just a quick note about Israel

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So, about 9 days ago or so I had to just, be very good or strong not to freak out. I heard some news about Israel-Palestine situation, and knew what it meant; I ought to have written right away.

but, ISRAEL!!! THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT OKAY.

It is an unfair confict when one side is armed, and another is not, and that is basically what this is. The death tolls are about 10 to one, 54 Americans dying while 1300 Palestinians have died, and a number in the several thousands have been wounded. Israel is bombing schools, and places the Palestinians are told will be safe, and they send text messages to them, to tell them sometimes when they are bombing. . .
it is catyclismic.

Netyanyahu is doing this, and people in Isreal who voice dissent are clubbed, or sent death threats, and hate messages on social media and email.

Israel seems to be caught in a mass insanity, with perhaps 80 percent of the population agreeing with the war..

There is a factor in human intelligence, or human nature or instinct. . .which is, if there is one person who is a guard, and another who is a prisoner . . . even if the people are only acting it out at first, it becomes a changing reality to the people, the person who is the guard has the tendency to become mean, and dehumanize the one who's acting as a prisoner. . .
And we seem to have this same phenomenon on a mass scale,
as well as the one which is a group of people who are caught in a national fervor.

There's no easy solutions, but there are solutions, they just require a lot of work, but it's absolutely necessary to bring an end to the conflict as quickly as possible, which means, instantly. The potential consequences of a war are extremely catastrophic, in fact, they already are. When more than a thousand people die, it's definitely a catastrophe. It's basically shooting someone who is unarmed, or who just has a slingshot. Israel has 17 power stations just with the IEC, Palestine only has one, which Israel just bombed. This has led to more difficulty in things like getting fresh water

It's like, this one-sided conflict in which one side is embattered and terrififed, and the other is caught up in this hayper-frenzy of pride and determination. .

I don't know everything about things going on, but I just cannot see any way in which this is correct, and it seems so incorrect that it just must absolutely be stopped, now. War will never end this way, by continuing the killing. These attacks are supposed to go on for how long, forever?

And we as Americans are responsible, and we've got to stop this, sending money to these people for guns. It doesn't even really matter which side we send them to, they will probably swtich multiple times, and simply keep working until they stop.

Sending billions of dollars of weaponry into an unstable region, with wars going on now and then, can never be a good thing, but it's done over and over, and we're the #1 supplier of arms. Thios is why I think it's a serious problem that has to be addressed, drastically and creatively, and it's one I can't at all conscienctiously support and accept.

We've not just sent money and arms to Israel, but we also have to Iraq, U.A.E., Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar, which was actually a big supplier of Hamas, evidently. We're arming both sides, and we have done for a long time. It's something which the system we support does, it gives and sells arms into places which are extremely volatile and dangerous. .
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  1. NikolaiI's Avatar
    Americans -> Israelies,
    and (partly) responsible
  2. hannah_arendt's Avatar
    Everybody there is partly responsible.Israelies do what it was done earlier to them. They try to survive. Their situation is not so simple. Around Isreal vast majority of countries (all) is islamic. I know that there are many victims. However, yesterday in Poland was the anniversary of Uprising in Warsaw. Below the link to texrt about it:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising. Then, nobody helped us.
    But coming back to the my main idea: Don`t you think that noobdy blames other islamic countries, their neighbours? Many wealhy people from Kuwejt or Emirates really could help them instead of building towers in the desert. On the other hand, look at the difference between Isrealies and Palestines. Theo only solution is education.

    Nevertheless, the situation in Israel should be changed.
  3. Pumpkin337's Avatar
    The problem can only begin to be resolved when all parties involved are willing to compromise. Compromises on the part of Israel have historically led to more conflict. The other side ... compromise doesn't seem part of the radical vocabulary ... so yeah huge attitude changes are needed, on some sides more than others. Until then we have bombs.
  4. Virgil's Avatar
    I'll tell you what Nik. How about I shoot some bullets at your house, through your windows, at your door, when your walking by. I assume you're not going to call the police? It's ok to shoot rockets and not retaliate?
  5. Buh4Bee's Avatar
    XXXXX
  6. NikolaiI's Avatar
    1500 civilians in Gaza, as of about a week ago, have been slaughtered, while. . .

    3, civilians, in Israel, have been killed.

    This is what's known as a slaughter, genocide, horror, wrong. Atrocity.

    Or, if you don't like those words, unequal conflict.


    Look at pictures of Israel, - what do you see? Some small damage- look at pics of Palestine, what do you see? Total devastation.

    1500 civilians killed, while more than 6,000 wounded.


    Anyway- in Gaza they don't leave their homes. They feel like they are in prison. We have the prisoner-guard thing going on in a mass scale.


    People who dissent in Israel are clubbed in the streets, if they do so online they're sent death threats and hate-messages. This is what you're backing up Virgil.

    500-to-1 is not right, it's not fair.


    Hate never ends hate - endless war won't stop this - but calling it out is absolutely necessary, this insanity, this bloodshed must stop.


    And how did the State of Israel get started? Villages were slaughtered. Truckloads of dead bodies were hauled around to other villages - just to show them what would happen if they did not move.
    In case you care.
  7. NikolaiI's Avatar
    I thought you should know. That's how it began.

    Maybe you just want to be on the winning side. No one like's a loser, right?

    Well, okay, but

    don't expect me to come back here.
  8. PeterL's Avatar
    There is an error. I am an American, and I am not responsible for the criminal acts of the Israelis on the Palestinians. This is just a continuation of the ethnic cleansing that the Israelis have been doing since the 1940's, and another example of how Israel ignores international law.
  9. qimissung's Avatar
    "Hate never ends hate.."