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Deni
06-11-2003, 01:00 AM
Seriously, whoever posted this message, I think you need to be less sympathetic and more realistic. Valets are not men of character; they are not gentlemen. Were they men of any character, they would at least have chosen another profession, and not to serve people. Athos was a man of courage and valour, and he is not a maniac or anything like that. He is a brave musketeer, and as for killing everyone he doesn't like, that is because they either don't respect his honour or do something similar. One has to remember that this is not 2003, and that gentlemen would fight for what they thought was right. They were not, unlike their servants, men who would take everything people did to them without uttering a sound. Athos was a gentleman, or rather, as is said somewhere in the books revolving around the four companions, a demigod. Now I understand perhaps that is a bit much to say about one man, but his valour was nontheless legendary in the book. I think it is very unfair that you side with servants and the lower class of "the masses" instead of a character such as Athos. I understand it's only a book, but character should always be valued anywhere it is found. As for morals, the musketeers do have morals. Why do you think they duel people all the time if they offend them? Those are morals, fighting for what you believe in. I seriously think that if you are too liberal and compassionate to read "The Three Musketeers" and observe it's true qualities, you should at least not insult the characters that Mr. Dumas so skillfully writes about in this masterpiece.

Margot
07-27-2003, 01:00 AM
What a thing to say! But you're right, no one cares.

Margot
07-27-2003, 01:00 AM
You and I should duel.

Athos
07-27-2003, 01:00 AM
I don't appreciate your insulting my reasons for dueling. If I have violent tendencies, then that's my business, and if I need marriage counseling that's my affair.

Johnny McPirate
02-21-2004, 02:00 AM
So, umm...to the fella who was complaining about the musketeers dueling. You're a moron. You can whine and call it crap all you like, but when did you read it? Ninteen ninety-somethin?? When was the book written? Lemme think...that's right, not in the 1990s. In Europe, way back when I was a wee scurvy knave, dueling was popular. Someone is insulted. And then someone (set us up the bomb!) prepares a duel. It's a thing of integrity. Only the nobles partake of this action. You never hear of Lenny the Alleyman dueling. Why? He lives in a trash can behind Buckingham Palace, and he's not a noble. Much like you. So before you go criticizing other people's integrity and culture, read the book, and try not to be stupid. As a fellow by the name of Hume once said, history cannot be right or wrong. It is your perception that makes it either the former or the latter.<br><br>Yaarrggh!

michelle
01-21-2005, 04:52 PM
first of all learn to write. half the time i have no idea what you are talking about. and just because dueling was all spiffy back in the day doesn't mean it was morally acceptable. dueling was a big cause of death among young men back then and that's why it was OUTLAWED. it is similar to smoking... glamorous yet stupid. it was simply a way of reinforcing their already inflated egos. but i will say one good thing about dueling, it's sort of an aristocratic form of population control. at least they were kind enough to get rid of the most useless members of society. notice how peasants and other PRODUCTIVE members of society don't duel. Oh and my lord the pirate, sorry if we sullied this website with our common presence but not everyone shares your views that dueling was a matter of integrity. maybe you wouldn't mind impaling someone for insulting your hairdo or even a slip of the tongue, but the rest of the world (i.e.: 90% of the population in 17th century france) was fortunately a little more mature. you say that the common man wouldn't duel. well maybe that's because he's not living off fifty or so peasants farming his land and actually has to work for a living. you've got to feel sorry for those poor nobles for they were evidently desperately bored. there is a thin line between bravery and stupidity and im afraid dueling falls on the wrong side. by the way , since we're just lowly peasants and your obviously a noble, why don't you show us your integrity and get into a duel. and let us know how it turns out.

Phsyco rodent
02-05-2005, 09:25 PM
While athos was not my favorite Character (Alas my heart belongs to aramis) he was certainly not a homicidal maniac! Also why don't you try picking up a history book , you might discover that that was the way things were in France at that time period! If dumas had written it any other way it would have been iaccurate and wrong.

Stephene
03-23-2005, 10:20 PM
You need to remember, back in those days, insults were not taken at all lightly. A simple motion was considered a insult to most. Also, sword fighting was legal, at least to a point. All most all men carried a sword on them, so it was natural to use it. And sometimes, Athos wasn't the first to draw.

Aramis
04-12-2005, 06:57 PM
Peace. This person is clearly not worth the point of your sword.

Unregistered
05-24-2005, 06:07 PM
I can't believe everyone is obsessed with the honor and valor of Athos. He is a homicidal maniac. He goes around killing everyone he doesn't like and then sits around regretting what he just did. why doesn't he think before he acts? And another thing have you seen how he treats his valets. There humans too and more decent in character than any of the three musketeers are. they at least have values and morals and don't go around dueling because it's honorable. i mean what a load of crap. someone calls you a name and you have to fight a duel. Please get over yourself no one cares.