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cacian
01-16-2017, 03:07 PM
matador
how wrong is it?

YesNo
01-16-2017, 09:32 PM
I never understood bull fights or sport hunting, but then sports in general make me wonder why bother?

desiresjab
01-17-2017, 12:03 AM
As wrongs go, it is not top of the line, honey, but it will do for starters. Let's take a peek behind the curtain. No, fighting bulls are not an endangered species. Yes, if I were them I would rather die fighting with the chance to gore some matador up the kazoo than be konked in the head with a sledgehammer or shot in the brain with a cattle gun.

If some marvelous person must kill a big beast let it be a bovine variety bull and not a whale or an elephant. Let it be a bovine over even a deer, elk or moose or a Canada goose, my dear.

But I know, it is the other side of that coin you want answered--as in how wrong is it of us to watch such things, if we do? Wrong enough to keep it from your children, I believe. They can kill lots of people in a video game, but no bulls, please, as that is cruel.

I know a man who spends his life hunting, with a little fishing thrown in. He is a master killer. I do not believe he has ever hunted in Africa, because he must eat everything he kills. He eats more wild game than anyone I have ever known. He is not a professional guide or a government hunter. He is a working man, and 4-5 months of the year has to work at a high paying seasonal job to support his one habit. I know he hunts deer (black tail, white tail and muledeer), moose, elk, antelope, mountain goat, mountain sheep, goose, duck, pheasant, wild turkey, grouse, prarie chicken, chucker, quail.. I am sure there are quite a few more. I do not know him intimately--he is a friend of my dad's--but I could query him next time I see him. He hunts within about 6,000 miles of his house, generally. I know for sure that he has been from Argentina to Russia to Canada to Australia hunting, and lives in California. I think he even hunted in Nova Scotia.

What about that? But the man eats everything he kills. His droppings alone can bring a bear from two miles away who thinks a goose or moose feast is at hand.

desiresjab
01-17-2017, 12:43 AM
I had to come back to amend the above post after speaking with a good source and learning that it is illegal to hunt prarie chicken. But on the other hand I got to add doves and sand cranes to the list, as well as the continent of Africa to his hunting spots. I think Africa only once, and then only birds.

YesNo
01-17-2017, 08:50 AM
I have relatives who enjoy hunting. I can see how this might be a sport at least as entertaining as baseball and you do get to eat what you kill. However, before you can eat the animal you have to skin and/or gut it. There are probably all sorts of other things you need to do that I can't think of. In my case I prefer eating vegetables. One could also raise the animal and then eat it. That takes out much of the sport in hunting and you have to kill something that thinks you are going to feed it. Better hunt something that will try to run away if it sees you in time.

There are easier ways to be a carnivore with the modern invention of super markets.

PeterL
01-17-2017, 09:40 PM
I never understood bull fights or sport hunting, but then sports in general make me wonder why bother?

That's the way that I feel also. I have no desire to fight bulls, but hunting for food might be worthwhile (fishing is certainly well spent time), but if one does not eat meat, then why would one hunt it? But to each his own.

Danik 2016
01-17-2017, 09:56 PM
I love animals and am against hunting them for mere sport.

MANICHAEAN
01-18-2017, 05:49 AM
Here in Vietnam on many menu's they have: dog (normally considered a dish for men only), tortoise, wild boar, and water buffalo among others.

I you are hungry enough you will eat anything, even grass or each other.

Its very much to do with the diet you had as a kid I'm sure.

Having had an Irish father, there was much offal at our table: liver, kidney, stuffed hearts, tripe and onions, pigs head soup, cow leg etc. My first wife could not even look at it, let alone cook it.

desiresjab
01-18-2017, 07:06 PM
Here in Vietnam on many menu's they have: dog (normally considered a dish for men only), tortoise, wild boar, and water buffalo among others.

I you are hungry enough you will eat anything, even grass or each other.

Its very much to do with the diet you had as a kid I'm sure.

Having had an Irish father, there was much offal at our table: liver, kidney, stuffed hearts, tripe and onions, pigs head soup, cow leg etc. My first wife could not even look at it, let alone cook it.

That sounds offal.

MANICHAEAN
01-19-2017, 12:51 AM
Groan!!!