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Whoever said this book is romantic, lied. Its about some arrogant people that just want to get themselves higher in society. Heathcliff is a brute of a man that cant control his anger and takes it out on everyone. Catharine doesnt know what love is and doesnt care about anyone but herself. THe plot.. sucks too. These characters are confined to such a small area that the only romance that occurs is between cousins. This is ludicrous.<br>I may be young, 17, but I know that acting as selfish as these characters do is not love, its as far from it as you can get.
we_rum
09-04-2005, 03:22 PM
Catherine doesn't know what love is and only thinks about herself? Hello? Isn't that true of any and all females worth anything? I'd rather fall in love with a selfish, firey, independent girl who follows her own passions, than some weepy tart who wants to discuss her "emotions" every step of the day. I'm talking mostly about the younger Catherine here- the one who embodies the girlish beauty the older Catherine pines for and Heathcliff loves so dearly. It should be obvious that before Catherine dies she is lost in delerium pining for younger years when her life was real beyond the teacups and fancy. She did realise her mistakes in the end and you should give her credit for it. And you may be only 17 and obviously far too mature to realise love expresses itself in many different ways.
Sarah's_Chanson
09-05-2005, 09:43 AM
I think that not understanding what love is isn't just a Catherine Earnshaw thing, but universal to mankind! Nobody can truly understand love because those who have it or give it don't analyse it and those who don't have it can't truly feel it.
On top of that nobody can understand every form of love, a happy marriage may be based on one form of love but I highly doubt Catherine and Heathcliff's love would of ended in any form of happiness even if she had married him.
And selfishness is part of humans as well, it's an imperfection we're all guilty of.
I think that Cathy DID truly love Heathcliff- to such a great extent that she believed that marrying Edgar wouldn't have any effect except to elevate her social standing. She took the bond between herself and H for granted, thinking that her actions couldn't hurt H because their love was far bigger than any affection she felt for E.L.
I think that perhaps she underestimated the impact she would have on him, but as she was so secure that anyone who came between her and H would 'meet the fate of Milo', she thought that they were untouchable.
After all, they grew up together, and with such family members for company, it's no surprise they clung to each other. They were kindred spirits and in the end it was H that the ghostly Cathy came back to.
E.L. saw no sign of her after she died, yet there she was peering in H's window. Cathy admitted to Nelly that her affection for E.L. would change like the seasons, but that H (the rocks beneath the surface) was so vital to her that should the world be annihilated but H to survive, she would be ok, but a world without H held no charm for her.
we rum- have you read Gone With the Wind? I think you'd like Scarlett :-)
we_rum
09-06-2005, 12:01 PM
I havent, nah, but that might be one to think about! Next up on my reading list is a Hemingway story..I'll put GWTW in third place, thanks!
Skyler
10-07-2005, 07:16 AM
Wuthering Heights had been my favorite book since I read it for the first time iwhen I was about 13. I have read so many times that I lost count. The love that Heathcliffe has for Catherine is pure and is the love of a complete soul mate. His love is not her status or lack thereof or of what anyone else thinks. Catherine too has that love for Heathcliffe. She says "I am Heathcliffe. However she is affected by what someone will think, and finds out too late what she has done to herself and Heathcliffe. I think I am still waiting for my Heathcliffe to come along and sweep me off my feet.
There has been a book written about Heathcliffe's life during the years he disappeared. I do not like the book because the character of Heacliffe is not the Heathcliffe in my heart. However, the book is interesting in that it ties the other Bronte sister books into the plot. The title is H. The Story of Heacliff's Journey Back to Wuthering Heights;the author is Lin Haire-Sargent.
emily_bronte
10-23-2005, 09:37 PM
I've also read H--Heathcliff's Journey Back to Wuthering Heights, and loved it. Though the author did change Heathcliff a bit, I feel that this was neccessary to tell the author's story. I admitt to laughing a bit at the way the author combined the two stories, but it was more amusement than critism.
Rachel
el01ks
10-25-2005, 07:14 AM
Catherine doesn't know what love is and only thinks about herself? Hello? Isn't that true of any and all females worth anything? I'd rather fall in love with a selfish, firey, independent girl who follows her own passions, than some weepy tart who wants to discuss her "emotions" every step of the day.
What? You think you have to be selfish to be worth loving? And that if you aren't selfish you're more likely to want to talk about your emotions? If you're self-obsessed, surely you're more likely to want to talk about your emotions, your feelings, your appearance, your shoes... basically you you you. Sounds boring to me!
Oh, and you can be firey and independant and still be weepy, at least some of the time. Or bottle it all up and end up needing to see a psychiatrist...
Eva Marina
11-12-2005, 05:06 PM
I've also read H--Heathcliff's Journey Back to Wuthering Heights, and loved it.
"Heathcliff's Journey Back to Wuthering Heights"? I've never heard of it before. Who's it by?
imaditzyreader
11-28-2005, 04:58 PM
Geeze. I just finished reading htis book for class. Through out the first oooh say 130 pages, I did not see why it was such an amazing book that had all of my english teachers declaring that it was thier favorite book. However- once I got past the part with the elder Catherine and I started examining the way that her generation brought about an entier new set of lovers, I discovered where the love in it lay. I think of it not as a "tale of a love that is stronger than death" (from the back of my Wuthering Heights novel) but instead as a love that fights through the generations. Hareton is but a younger Heathcliff and the younger Cathy is but a picture of her mother.
we_rum
01-13-2006, 02:35 PM
"What? You think you have to be selfish to be worth loving? And that if you aren't selfish you're more likely to want to talk about your emotions? If you're self-obsessed, surely you're more likely to want to talk about your emotions, your feelings, your appearance, your shoes... basically you you you. Sounds boring to me!
Oh, and you can be firey and independant and still be weepy, at least some of the time. Or bottle it all up and end up needing to see a psychiatrist..."
haha. oh man, I didnt see that. You know, I'm just a youngun' so forgive me my over-generalizations of the fairer and somewhat crazier sex. You're right, selfish chicks do talk a lot about their shoes, but it's all good, I quite like shoes, especially heels. Hell, I'D even talk about heels, and I'm a male. I wonder if they had 'em back in the day?
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