The End is Nigh...Uh, or something...

[Tyrion Cheddar]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2094644-hundreds-of-genes-seen-sparking-to-life-two-days-after-death/

This article was the first thing I saw when I woke up this morning, much like the genes and cells which apparently wake up...two days after you die! What in the Christ? And fetal development genes, too? What for? To give birth to your undead Satan baby? Dude, do you realize this is makin' them preppers who are planning for a zombie apocalypse look smart? I object! I'm scared! I want my mama! And a bunker full of crosses and garlic!

[YesNo]

I am not surprised by this. People come back from the dead (or a state of declared death) and some of them report "near death experiences". Finding this on the gene level would be something I would have expected.

I was surprised to find out that the World Health Organization was saying for years that coffee was not good for you and then recently it changing its position and saying that no it is not coffee but rather that scalding liquids are bad for you. Do we need rocket scientists to warn us about scalding liquids? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-who-coffee-idUSKCN0Z10X9

[Danik 2016]

That´s the kind of post that will give us all a restfull night. :bawling:
But something had to be alive, else how explain organ transplantation.
I am more afraid of the experiments we don´t hear about.

[Tyrion Cheddar]

I am not surprised by this. People come back from the dead (or a state of declared death) and some of them report "near death experiences". Finding this on the gene level would be something I would have expected.


The people who have near death experiences and are revived have been dead generally for a few minutes. This is not that. For a start, two days?! Second, it's at the genetic level and it is particularly the part where these genes are said to "wake up" that gives me chills. Just imagine, secret, silent mechanisms awakening in a dead body. And why did Nature build unites designed to wake up in dead bodies? Me scared.

[Tyrion Cheddar]

That´s the kind of post that will give us all a restfull night. :bawling:
But something had to be alive, else how explain organ transplantation.
I am more afraid of the experiments we don´t hear about.

Well, organ transplantation is different. The organs are removed immediately upon death--it's amazing how fast donor doctors work--before the organs die, then frozen still alive, then transplanted into another person. But two days later, yikes.

[Pompey Bum]

I was surprised to find out that the World Health Organization was saying for years that coffee was not good for you and then recently it changing its position and saying that no it is not coffee but rather that scalding liquids are bad for you. Do we need rocket scientists to warn us about scalding liquids?

I'm not sure exactly what WHO said, but the exculpation of coffee as a carcinogen is really old. I hope my money didn't pay for this exciting medical breakthrough. And as far as hot liquids go, I've been talking about drinking coffee at room temperature for years (despite occasional flak from the peanut gallery). But hey, health for all by the year 2000! Let them drink slogans.

I have to say, too, that zombie genes sound more like Dawn of the Dead than Heaven Is Real. But thanks for the information, TC. You yisi! (That's Chinese for cool).

[YesNo]

And as far as hot liquids go, I've been talking about drinking coffee at room temperature for years (despite occasional flak from the peanut gallery).

The problem is coffee tastes bad enough as it is. One might as well warm it up a bit. What I'm drinking now could use a trip to the microwave or be dumped down the drain.

As far as cells waking up from the dead, I have to admit, I hadn't thought of it at that level before, but two days doesn't seem long. Two weeks? That would be surprising.

[Danik 2016]

Here is a link to the medical article if any one wants to take a look(55 p):
http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/06/11/058305.full.pdf

[YesNo]

It looks like there was data up to 96 hours (4 days) after death of the zebrafish. Whatever they are measuring ("mRNA abundance") may go on longer than that.