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anoori9000
11-09-2015, 01:29 PM
TO BE CLEAR, I AM NOT ASKING FOR EXACT QUOTES. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE QUESTION BEFORE CLICKING AWAY! THANKS!

As you can probably already tell from the question, this is for a school essay and I need some help. The purpose is to find 2 minor, mortal characters and say why they fit greek values. You have to provide 2 quotes per person.

Here are the list of greek values we will use:

Obey your superior
Honor your father by upholding their positions and following their command.
Act with cleverness rather brute force.
Honor the Gods. Make sacrifice appeals.
Avoid excessive pride (hubris). This will lead to trouble
Heed prophecies and omens.
ALWAYS be hospitable

I already have my first character, Eumaeus the swineherd, and I am using the hospitality value. I am having trouble thinking of another example of someone showing a greek value (that is minor, mortal, and not showing hospitality).

Can anyone help me find an example of any character showing this? Again, I don't want exact quote because I want to have my ideas flow into my writing. I would just like to know a character that shows one or more of these values and a general area in the book (like chapter maybe). If you cant think of the specific chapter it is fine, the most importantt thing is the character and value. The more options I have the better.

Thank you so much everyone, I know I am asking for a lot. :)

EDIT: It can not be a major character like Odysseus or Telemachus. Thanks :)

prendrelemick
11-09-2015, 05:29 PM
Book 12, The cattle of the sun episode, would fit the first and fifth value ( by illustrating what happens if you ignore them.)

Odysseus' escape from Polyphemus shows his cleverness, and his boasting about it as he sails away is an example of hubris. (book 9)

anoori9000
11-09-2015, 06:05 PM
Book 12, The cattle of the sun episode, would fit the first and fifth value ( by illustrating what happens if you ignore them.)

Odysseus' escape from Polyphemus shows his cleverness, and his boasting about it as he sails away is an example of hubris. (book 9)

Thank you very very much for your answer! I should have stressed this more that the characters have to be MINOR and MORTAL. So It can't be Odysseus or Telemachus.

Can you think of any people that fit that?

Again, Thanks :)

prendrelemick
11-10-2015, 04:58 AM
Minor characters are harder to recall, but how about the beggar King Irus? He does some boasting before Odysseus thrashes him (hubris) book 18

Theoclymenus warns the suitors he has "seen" blood in the hall and their ghosts going down to hell. But they ignore him (book 20)

For cleverness (not by Odysseus) Eumaeus tells his backstory, where a trader seduces his nurse and gets her to bring him treasure and to kidnap Emumaeus himself.