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cacian
08-30-2015, 05:47 AM
are we our own worst enemy?
we have what it takes but we chose to let it bate.

YesNo
08-30-2015, 02:39 PM
Perhaps both our worst enemy and our best friend?

HCabret
08-30-2015, 02:54 PM
are we our own worst enemy?
we have what it takes but we chose to let it bate.
I don't understand the question. From an evolutionary science POV, the future of human evolution is random and unpredictable. From a social POV, I would argue that both progressiveness and degeneracy are good things.

cacian
08-30-2015, 04:14 PM
Perhaps both our worst enemy and our best friend?

that could well be the case :)

cacian
08-30-2015, 04:15 PM
I don't understand the question. From an evolutionary science POV, the future of human evolution is random and unpredictable. From a social POV, I would argue that both progressiveness and degeneracy are good things.
the future of the human is unpredictable?
in what sense?
degeneracy being a good thing?

Margerma
08-30-2015, 07:11 PM
the future of the human is unpredictable?
in what sense?
degeneracy being a good thing?

It would be a bad thing but unavoidable. Is where we are going.

PeterL
08-31-2015, 08:12 AM
are we our own worst enemy?
we have what it takes but we chose to let it bate.

I think it depends on the individual. There are some who are quite nice, while others the world would be happier about if they weren't born. Even worse, the ones we would be better off without think that they are the best, while the best think of themselves as ordinary. I'm hoping that things will be better after the Really Great Pandemic.

cacian
08-31-2015, 12:01 PM
I think it depends on the individual. There are some who are quite nice, while?? others the world would be happier about if they weren't born. Even worse, the ones we would be better off without think that they are the best, while the best think of themselves as ordinary. I'm hoping that things will be better after the Really Great Pandemic.

The Great Pandemic??

HCabret
08-31-2015, 01:06 PM
the future of the human is unpredictable?
in what sense?
degeneracy being a good thing?
Genetic mutations are random and virtually unpredictable. It is extremely hard to model random events and even harder to use such a hypothetical model to predict the future. There is no theory in evolutionary biology, which I know of, that claims to predict the future course of human evolution.

Degeneracy is what brought humanity out of the dark ages and into the renaissance and from the ancien regime into a liberal world. Degeneracy is good, renewal and rethought are good.

PeterL
08-31-2015, 01:38 PM
The Great Pandemic??

Yes, there is reason for optimism. :)

HCabret
08-31-2015, 02:52 PM
Yes, there is reason for optimism. :)

What is the "Really Great Pandemic"?

cacian
08-31-2015, 03:02 PM
Genetic mutations are random and virtually unpredictable. It is extremely hard to model random events and even harder to use such a hypothetical model to predict the future. There is no theory in evolutionary biology, which I know of, that claims to predict the future course of human evolution.

Degeneracy is what brought humanity out of the dark ages and into the renaissance and from the ancien regime into a liberal world. Degeneracy is good, renewal and rethought are good.

surely the ability to regenerate is what you mean,
for a long time humans behaved and still behave in a degenerate way but the human mind which is regenerate pulled them out of the darkness and into the light for at least part of the time,

anyway how is science to do with it?

HCabret
08-31-2015, 03:43 PM
surely the ability to regenerate is what you mean,
for a long time humans behaved and still behave in a degenerate way but the human mind which is regenerate pulled them out of the darkness and into the light for at least part of the time,

anyway how is science to do with it?my first paragraph and second are separate and are addressing two different points.

Deconstruction is necessary sometimes to bring about something new. Degenerates like Galileo and Copernicus are good for humanity.

cacian
08-31-2015, 04:06 PM
What is the "Really Great Pandemic"?

I wondered that too. :)

HCabret
08-31-2015, 04:21 PM
I wondered that too. :)

That's what it is? I don't understand.

PeterL
09-02-2015, 08:10 AM
I wondered that too. :)

A pandemic (from Greek πᾶν pan "all" and δῆμος demos "people") is an epidemic of infectious disease that has spread through human populations across a large region; for instance multiple continents, or even worldwide.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=pandemic