Religion addresses Relation with God, Morals and Matrerial Progress.

[YALASH]

Peace be on you.
If people can learn good morals without religion then what is the need of believing in religion. This question is important in the context that skepticism about religion and blatant denial of God is on the rise. Some people claim their morals are better than morals of religious people. The people of various faiths have lost their practical relation with religion.



Despite having lot of problems, Muslims still relate themselves to their faith. The modern way of education raises many questions in the mind of Muslim children but some parents, due to lack of time or lack of knowledge, suppress these inquiries that leave adolescents to think perhaps religion does not provide answers to new age.



Islam is a perfect religion. It guides to solutions of various problems. Holy Quran is the perfect Book. Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) presented perfect model. This model developed a change in his Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) and they understood the wisdom of religion and how it guides morals and material progress.


In these times, the latter days era, this wisdom has been lost and certain clergies have emerged who issue verdict of disbelief if someone does not join their rallies and does not follow their explanation. This business in widespread and is resulting in bloodshed and wars in Muslim world and ending in other forms of extremism. The latest episode has been the Yemen related matter.



The true Islamic teaching teaches that a believer do not separate morals from religion and religion does not make one free from worldly needs. If one carry this thought the wheel of material progress will stop. Religion, morals and material progress are interlinked and Islam provides guidance to have spiritual connection with God, to get morals and to have success in the world, according to Ahmadiyya-Muslim Khalifah.


The proofs come from the fact that Holy Prophet (p.b.u.h.) said “Prayer is the essence of worship” and on the other hand he (p.b.u.h.) stressed upon the completion of spirituality (which comes through morals). He (p.b.u.h.) provided excellent civic teaching e.g. personal and communal hygiene, making wide roads, roomy houses, water supplies and governmental issues etc.

[Munshie]

YALASH

A great deal of what you write is contentious. I will address only one or two points otherwise I'll be writing a book.

"blatant denial of God is on the rise"

The above suggests that God's existence is unequivocal and people are deliberately denying God's existence (in the face of evidence.). For many people God is far from obvious or the evidence for his existence is less than convincing.

"Islam is a perfect religion."

That is your opinion and not a fact. Each religion makes the same claim. In any case, what criteria can/should be used to judge to judge which of all the religions is the perfect one?

"Religion, morals and material progress are interlinked and Islam"

The whole paragraph from which the above quotation is taken, is confusing to me to say the least. Are you suggesting there can be no material progress without religion? It could be argued that the move away from literal (or metaphorical) interpretations of the Bible and Quran have made scientific progress possible. When the bishops/priests and maulanas stopped telling us how and why the world is the way it is, scientific knowledge blossomed leading to improvements in the material quality of life for billions of people. BTW, I have a science background and I am well aware of the contributions that Muslim scientists have made in the past, usually in the teeth of hostility from their Muslim rulers and maulanas.

Just remember there are wide varieties of religions as well as agnostics and atheist and even among all of those categories there are a wide varieties of opinion/standpoints. Please remember that you are not preaching to the converted, so a different approach to the subject by you might be more effective.

[HCabret]

YALASH

A great deal of what you write is contentious. I will address only one or two points otherwise I'll be writing a book.

"blatant denial of God is on the rise"

The above suggests that God's existence is unequivocal and people are deliberately denying God's existence (in the face of evidence.). For many people God is far from obvious or the evidence for his existence is less than convincing.

"Islam is a perfect religion."

That is your opinion and not a fact. Each religion makes the same claim. In any case, what criteria can/should be used to judge to judge which of all the religions is the perfect one?

"Religion, morals and material progress are interlinked and Islam"

The whole paragraph from which the above quotation is taken, is confusing to me to say the least. Are you suggesting there can be no material progress without religion? It could be argued that the move away from literal (or metaphorical) interpretations of the Bible and Quran have made scientific progress possible. When the bishops/priests and maulanas stopped telling us how and why the world is the way it is, scientific knowledge blossomed leading to improvements in the material quality of life for billions of people. BTW, I have a science background and I am well aware of the contributions that Muslim scientists have made in the past, usually in the teeth of hostility from their Muslim rulers and maulanas.

Just remember there are wide varieties of religions as well as agnostics and atheist and even among all of those categories there are a wide varieties of opinion/standpoints. Please remember that you are not preaching to the converted, so a different approach to the subject by you might be more effective.
This forum is about discussing literature, not about argueing the merits of any world view over any other. Literary analysis is valid regardless of which perspective is being used in said analysis.

[Munshie]

HCabret

"This forum is about discussing literature, not about argueing the merits of any world view over any other. Literary analysis is valid regardless of which perspective is being used in said analysis."

Am I wrong in challenging some of the unsupported assertions made by the writer in a thread concerning religion? I thought that was what this forum is for - putting alternative viewpoints.

[HCabret]

HCabret

"This forum is about discussing literature, not about argueing the merits of any world view over any other. Literary analysis is valid regardless of which perspective is being used in said analysis."

Am I wrong in challenging some of the unsupported assertions made by the writer in a thread concerning religion? I thought that was what this forum is for - putting alternative viewpoints.This is not a debate forum, this is a literature forum.