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Ecurb
03-31-2015, 12:14 PM
A generation of 1950s poets discovered the effective but ultimately empty shock tactic of rejecting those joys (beauty, love, etc.) traditionally worshiped by poets. It seems like half of these poor nobs ended up committing suicide, and I’ve always wondered whether they wrote depressing poetry because of their bleak view of the world, or whether they had a bleak view of the world because they wrote depressing poetry. Sometimes I fancy that the Sylvia Plaths, Anne Sextons, and Weldon Kees of the world got caught in their own trap – what began as idle imaginings ended in idol worshipings at the altar of which a generation of poets worshiped, and was sacrificed.

By the way, my favorite of these poets is Weldon Kees. Has anyone ever read his stuff? He’s best read in his own books of poems, rather than in an anthology, because the sheer weight of his hopelessness becomes more and more oppressive as one reads on. His complete poems were collected by Donald Justice. His most famous poems include the “Robinson” series. I happen to have “Crime Club” and "To My Daughter" on my computer (for some unknown reason), so I’ll post it to give the uninitiated a taste. They're typical of Kees’ witty, depressing style, although perhaps not his best. (Most of Kees' poems are not available online yet.)



Crime Club
By: Weldon Keys


No butler, no second maid, no blood upon the stair.
No eccentric aunt, no gardener, no family friend
Smiling among the bric-a-brac and murder.
Only a suburban house with the front door open
And a dog barking at a squirrel, and the cars
Passing. The corpse quite dead. The wife in Florida.

Consider the clues: The potato masher in a vase,
The torn photograph of a Wesleyan basketball team
Scattered with check stubs in the hall;
The Hoover button on the lapel of the deceased,
The unsent fan letter to Shirley Temple,
The note: “To be killed this way is quite all right with me.”

Small wonder that the case remains unsolved,
Or that the sleuth, Le Roux, is now incurably insane,
And sits alone in a white room, in a white gown,
Screaming that all the world is mad, that clues
Lead nowhere, or to walls so high their tops cannot be seen;
Screaming all day of war, screaming that nothing can be solved.




For My Daughter Poem by Weldon Kees

Looking into my daughter’s eyes I read
Beneath the innocence of morning flesh
Concealed, hintings of death she does not heed.
Coldest of winds have blown this hair, and mesh
Of seaweed snarled these miniatures of hands;
The night’s slow poison, tolerant and bland,
Has moved her blood. Parched years that I have seen
That may be hers appear: foul, lingering
Death in certain war, the slim legs green.
Or, fed on hate, she relishes the sting
Of others’ agony; perhaps the cruel
Bride of a syphilitic or a fool.
These speculations sour in the sun.
I have no daughter. I desire none.

Poetaster
03-31-2015, 01:32 PM
Didn't Plath have bipolar disorder and was known in her teens as being suicidal?

Pompey Bum
03-31-2015, 03:16 PM
A poet called Mrs Ted Hughs
One day got a case of the blues.
She opened the oven
Her head for to shove in
Crying, "Hey, do the math, Plath is news!"

Lykren
03-31-2015, 11:53 PM
I really disagree that there was any kind of decision to reject traditional poetic values on the part of these poets. The idea that they 'set a trap' in order to get attention, or that their cheap 'shock tactics' rebounded on their own souls feels both callous and oversimplified.

I don't think that Plath or Lowell hold their own with the best of the Modernists (Stevens, Eliot) but Plath, in particular, had a very unusual flair for setting a scene with musical imagery. Here are a few poems by her I like.

The Night Dances

A smile fell in the grass.
Irretrievable!

And how will your night dances
Lose themselves. In mathematics?

Such pure leaps and spirals ----
Surely they travel

The world forever, I shall not entirely
Sit emptied of beauties, the gift

Of your small breath, the drenched grass
Smell of your sleeps, lilies, lilies.

Their flesh bears no relation.
Cold folds of ego, the calla,

And the tiger, embellishing itself ----
Spots, and a spread of hot petals.

The comets
Have such a space to cross,

Such coldness, forgetfulness.
So your gestures flake off ----

Warm and human, then their pink light
Bleeding and peeling

Through the black amnesias of heaven.
Why am I given

These lamps, these planets
Falling like blessings, like flakes

Six sided, white
On my eyes, my lips, my hair

Touching and melting.
Nowhere.


Edge

The woman is perfected.
Her dead

Body wears the smile of accomplishment,
The illusion of a Greek necessity

Flows in the scrolls of her toga,
Her bare

Feet seem to be saying:
We have come so far, it is over.

Each dead child coiled, a white serpent,
One at each little

Pitcher of milk, now empty.
She has folded

Them back into her body as petals
Of a rose close when the garden

Stiffens and odors bleed
From the sweet, deep throats of the night flower.

The moon has nothing to be sad about,
Staring from her hood of bone.

She is used to this sort of thing.
Her blacks crackle and drag.

Ecurb
04-01-2015, 12:00 PM
I'm not sure if some of the suicidal poets of the 1950s made a "decision" to reject traditional poetic values, or just did it more naturally. In the Kees poems I posted above, "For My Daughter" definitely appears to reject the value of parenthood. "Crime Club" rejects the notion that there are poetic (or legal) answers.

I certainly didn't mean to suggest that their "shock tactics" were "cheap". All of poetry involves "tactics" -- and they are "cheap" only if the poems are cheap. I'll grant that my initial post "oversimplified" the issue (how could a one paragraph post do otherwise?). Nonetheless, I think it's reasonable to suspect that personality influences the kind of poems a poet writes, which, in turn, influence his personality. The depressed poet who writes depressing poems may become more depressed, as his sorrow becomes an essential part of his art. Isn't it possible that Wordsworth learned his romantic view of nature by writing his poems, as well as writing his poems because he had a romantic view of nature? Each influences the other (perhaps).

Wasn't "The Edge" Plath's last poem? Didn't she pour out glasses of milk for her children before turning on the oven? Can't poetry (especially for the poet, who must immerse herself in her art) influence mood, as well as reflecting it? I don't have the answers -- but the questions seem reasonable.