View Full Version : Urges and whatever they may mean
jajdude
03-10-2014, 12:01 AM
I wonder what the meaning of an urge is, that which drives us in one direction as opposed to another. Often there are contradictory urges occurring around the same time. There are sexual urges, and these are regarded as natural. Then there is suppression, which is really quite brutal. The religions advocate this suppression of urges as a way of being decent or spiritual. This is nonsense. Suppression denies understanding, and without understanding the various urges that come and go, there is no understanding of yourself, which is vital. There is great energy in observation of urges. But there is also great waste of energy in the condemnation or justification of these odd things that spring up daily. When you see all the many urges in yourself, what happens? Do you justify them, or criticize them, or merely say that is what you are? And what is the thing that makes the justification or criticism? A problem behind all these urges is how swift and habitual they are. They happen so fast and routinely. Most of us are far too dull to be aware of them when they occur. Then they have their way with us and we accept that as normal. I suppose it is normal in the given definition, as that which belongs to most people.
The Atheist
03-10-2014, 01:45 PM
I wonder what the meaning of an urge is, that which drives us in one direction as opposed to another.
I'd be interested to see how you're going to ascribe meaning to urges. Genetics x upbringing would explain why we have urges, but I can't fit a meaning in there.
Often there are contradictory urges occurring around the same time. There are sexual urges, and these are regarded as natural. Then there is suppression, which is really quite brutal. The religions advocate this suppression of urges as a way of being decent or spiritual. This is nonsense.
So far, so good. I'd see all urges as natural. If they're not natural, they must be supernatural, right?
Suppression denies understanding, and without understanding the various urges that come and go, there is no understanding of yourself, which is vital. There is great energy in observation of urges. But there is also great waste of energy in the condemnation or justification of these odd things that spring up daily. When you see all the many urges in yourself, what happens? Do you justify them, or criticize them, or merely say that is what you are? And what is the thing that makes the justification or criticism? A problem behind all these urges is how swift and habitual they are. They happen so fast and routinely. Most of us are far too dull to be aware of them when they occur. Then they have their way with us and we accept that as normal. I suppose it is normal in the given definition, as that which belongs to most people.
I'm completely failing to see your point - would you like to expand on what you actually mean here?
It looks like you are confusing imagination with "urge".
jajdude
03-17-2014, 06:01 PM
Come to think of it, I don't know what any of that means. Was probably drunk when I posted that.
The Atheist
03-17-2014, 06:15 PM
:smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5:
Ah, the world loves honesty!
Delta40
03-17-2014, 06:24 PM
Come to think of it, I don't know what any of that means. Was probably drunk when I posted that.
Was that an urge you had? :-)
jajdude
03-19-2014, 02:43 PM
I'm sure it was.
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