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krishna_lit
01-09-2014, 09:09 PM
I was wondering why most (at least many) of the classical works in sci-fi, such as Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, A Clockwork Orange and many others seem to have been set in dystopian times?

Is there something of a motivating factor for authors to write a story about dystopia or are we all slowly and unconsciously relating ourselves to the age of dystopia with science gadgets and technology raising to power over us (which is what's happening now according to me)??

hypatia_
01-09-2014, 09:18 PM
I think novels sort of depend on conflict, so dystopian is much easier to engage the reader than utopian where everything is perfect and dandy. and yeah, I do think the current state of technology, surveillance, etc. certainly alludes to society's progression in the direction of dystopia (if we'll ever reach a dystopian society is another matter, but I hope not :P).

There is definitely a lot of utopian lit out there as well, but it seems dystopian lit more easily garners attention and discussion.

krishna_lit
01-09-2014, 09:29 PM
I do think the current state of technology, surveillance, etc. certainly alludes to society's progression in the direction of dystopia (if we'll ever reach a dystopian society is another matter, but I hope not :P)
I hope so too... yeah it is a bit frightening as well to even imagine it happening for real.


There is definitely a lot of utopian lit out there as well
Can you please mention some titles of Utopian science fiction??

Thank you for your response :)

luhsun
01-09-2014, 10:04 PM
Utopian science fiction: just look at any politician's manifesto

Dark Muse
01-10-2014, 02:59 AM
I think part of the reason why so much classical science fiction is set in a dystopian landscape is because they were written during times when there was a lot of anxiety about the current state of the world. It was a time of rapid change, technology growth, some major wars. The 20th century in general was marked with a great deal of angst, and cynical views of the world, which no doubt leads to a lot of concern as to what the future might hold. Particularly in regards to technology and how it might be used. It had already been seen by the world how new technology was used within war. So I think it is a refection of the authors (and perhaps the general populaces) fears of the world they were living and where it might take them.

free
01-10-2014, 03:33 AM
I was wondering why most (at least many) of the classical works in sci-fi, such as Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, A Clockwork Orange and many others seem to have been set in dystopian times?

Is there something of a motivating factor for authors to write a story about dystopia or are we all slowly and unconsciously relating ourselves to the age of dystopia with science gadgets and technology raising to power over us (which is what's happening now according to me)??

Not only SF. Most of the socalled well written novels deal with tragedies. Most writers think that if their novels lead to a happy ending it would make them a kitsch. I can only guess why is it so. I don't know the real reason for it.

hypatia_
01-10-2014, 04:20 AM
Not only SF. Most of the socalled well written novels deal with tragedies. Most writers think that if their novels lead to a happy ending it would make them a kitsch. I can only guess why is it so. I don't know the real reason for it.

perhaps it is inherent in our nature.

PeterL
01-10-2014, 09:20 AM
One of the necessities for a plot is conflict, a problem to be solved, and the problem should not be trivial. If an author wants to say something significant, then the conflict should relate to a truly big problem.

togre
01-10-2014, 12:19 PM
While I agree with the sentiment that plot needs conflict, I think the nature of science fiction is inherently predispositioned to the dystopian. While science fiction can be pure escapism, most serious works use the setting as a tool to examine and critique aspects of human nature, society, science, etc. The very fact you are dealing with an unreal setting allows you to tinker with reality, imagine what if this specific trait was universal and dominant, if this line of reasoning which works in a specific case was universal, if this inhibiting factor was removed. While this can be explored on a small or personal scale, seeing the consequences in a society who accept as normal the challenges, rules, etc, that would shock or horrify us is far more poignant.

Volya
01-10-2014, 02:56 PM
I hope so too... yeah it is a bit frightening as well to even imagine it happening for real.


Can you please mention some titles of Utopian science fiction??

Thank you for your response :)

The Riverworld series by Philip Farmer could be described as a Utopian science fiction, in that it is set in a world where all resources are available and humans have everything they need.

PeterL
01-10-2014, 03:03 PM
Most science fiction is ultimately utopian (and eutopian), because it points toward a better world. As in "Utopia" there is hope for improvement and a way to a better future is shown.

miyako73
01-10-2014, 05:20 PM
Why is classic Science Fiction set is Dystopian times?

Is it because the classical view about time is that the ultimate consequence or result of its linearity is disorder, ruin, and destruction? The entropy in the second law of thermodynamics implies that. Didn't the world experience Nagasaki and Hiroshima after particle physics or computer viruses and cyber crimes after Internet?

Not all works of science fiction are of dystopia though. Isn't falling in love to a robot that loves back in the end after its lover does some artificial intelligence on it beautiful and ideal and in tune with our times, technology, and current emotional afflictions such as isolation and dissociation from humans?

sandy14
01-10-2014, 06:39 PM
The dystopia is allegorical. Take an idea or piece of technology from today and then extrapolate that idea into the future and show how it does or does not work. It may be a parody, or a comedy and it doesn't always involve technology. Huxley's Attic Hay is an example, J G Ballard's work is as much about psychological development as it is technological (Supercannes).

Iain M Bank's Culture is an example of a utopia. A world where machines provide humanity with everything it needs or wants and it seems there is no lack of resources. Special circumstances seems to get up to dodgy things, but it interferes with good intentions, which sharply contrasts (probably deliberately) with Star Trek's Federation (another Utopia) which has a policy of non-interference.

Another example of Utopia would be in Asimov's Foundation Series.

A lot of SF from the early c20th century seems to be concerned about the move from country to city and how city life would be the dominate the life of many - such as E M Fosters The Machine Stops, and Attic Hay. There's a recognition, and unease that much of humanity is being compressed into cities and the effect this will have on humanity.

Later works speculate on eugenics (Brave New World) and political developments (1984, Animal Farm) and of course there's the pulp stuff which features giant robots and aliens - some of which is just to be taken as entertainment.

luhsun
01-11-2014, 03:55 AM
Foundation isnt utopia. It is the fruitless search for utopia by r. Daneel olivaw.

kev67
01-11-2014, 08:43 PM
I think part of the reason why so much classical science fiction is set in a dystopian landscape is because they were written during times when there was a lot of anxiety about the current state of the world. It was a time of rapid change, technology growth, some major wars. The 20th century in general was marked with a great deal of angst, and cynical views of the world, which no doubt leads to a lot of concern as to what the future might hold. Particularly in regards to technology and how it might be used. It had already been seen by the world how new technology was used within war. So I think it is a refection of the authors (and perhaps the general populaces) fears of the world they were living and where it might take them.

I listened to a radio series that argued this very thing. Dystopian fictions were projections of current anxieties.

Dark Muse
01-11-2014, 09:57 PM
I listened to a radio series that argued this very thing. Dystopian fictions were projections of current anxieties.

That is interesting, and I do think it makes a lot of sense that one would be inclined to project the current fears they have into the future.