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[Dwayne Frank]

I think the character Emilia is used to great effect by Shakespeare. In my opinion he uses Emilia to carry the plot very well. He is able to use Emilia in a way which keeps her as a minor character whilst at the same time being a key reason for the death of the heroin, Desdemona and herself. Emilia is in this play to prolong the dramatic function throughout and i think that is marvellous.

[cRaZy]

Desdemona is a fool! I think its good he died in the end, she got unbearable. Emilia however did add to the essence of the play, she was a perfect female character and i just loved her analysis about infidelity, she totally won me over there, could you imagine a woman in the 16th century talking like that?!?!?!wooohooo goo emii!i loved the conflict in the play as well- 'othello' isn't all that great if you take the conflict out! remember CONFLICT IS THE ESSENCE OF DRAMA!

[SkizaWWE]

Mmmmm...................i see what you guys mean. I read the part of Emilia when we were reading the play in class at school and i totally fell in love with her courage and truthfulnesss, as well as her sincerity ( she meant what she said). At the start i wasn't too sure how effective her character would be within the play but as the play progressed so did her character's involvement and that final scene when she spilt the beans on Iago was amazing although i didn't like her stealing Desdemona's handkerchief, even if Iago was pressuring her to take it. She didn't seem like the sort of person that would do something like that and i thought it immoral of her to do so................regardless of the fact Iago was her husband. Didn't you just hate the fact Iago stabbed her and she died after all the good she had done! I did! But i think that this further cemented her standing within the play as a victim of this injustice and i feel that this was Shakespeare's intention.

What do you think? :lol:

[lil_chicken]

yep skiza i agree how you rekon Emilia was a victim to injustice, it further emphasizes how women werent taken seriously back then! They could only say so much before they apparently were an embarrassment to their husbands (what ever they think!!!) I think Shakespeare had the intention of showing how women are victims, although he doesnt seem to write a play where the women ends up on top, conquering the male species without being described as white, weak or innocent ??? Can you think of a play Shakespeare wrote where the women are not either manipulating, weak or killed? yeh no i didnt think so hehe

[tomatoes]

Emilia is the 2nd best character in the play (I love Iago), she is certainly the best female. I have my doubts about her though. I don't think she fully understood Iago's plot until the end of the play. I think she was more suspicious of her husband than the rest of the characters because of the way he treated her. He was awful to her and couldn't believe that he would be nice to other people unless it was for his own gain. If she had seen what Iago was doing from the beginning I think she would have stopped him somehow. At the end I think she was determined to make up for her mistake of giving Iago the handkercheif. She felt that by exposing Iago she was absolved of her sins. I also think she did it to get back at Iago.

[finessfreak]

All good points about emilia but when the hankerchief was mentioned it made me think why did Emilia give that handkerchief to Iago in the first place?
It didnt seem to me that it was out of fear. I dont think that it was becuse she was trying to be a dutiful wife either- her views on infedility and her aCTIONS LATER on in the play show that she wasnt too apprehensive about the whole dutiful wife thing that was expected of a woman in those times.

I think that she did it out of love.(Emilia must have once loved Iago. ) That what fascinates me the most about Emilia how she could love a man so evil as Iago.

I mean one could argue that she was just trying to please him so he wouldnt treat her badly but her actions in the end show that emilia has (i was gonna say balls but that would be rather crude wouldnt it? ) a certian audacity. And i dont think that she was a weak character (as she proves)either so i put it down to love.

I think that it is plausable to say that Emilia and othello are similar; We see the downfall of these two characters beause of their love.

Emilias love for iago makes speculate- why does emilia love Iago? was he a good person before? was there something in particular that made him evil?

I mean Right from the begining of the play people are referring to Iago as honest ...... Maybe there was a time Iago was honest? :confused: what does everyone else think?

[Aurelian]

I agree that it's likely Iago was one a good person. If he wasn't, why would he have all these friends who love and trust him, and a wife who genuinely cares for him? I don't believe he gained those people's respect by acting, I think that he started out as a good person and eventually become the evil person he was in a downward spiral kinda thing

[tomatoes]

I can't see Iago as a good person, but he must have been once.
Why did he go bad though. Maybe he just got bored with being nice and not getting anything for it so he decided to screw up people's lives and have some fun.
Yeah I can see that.

[Minx]

mmm maybe he just wasnt hugged enough wen he was a kid?... i've heard that sorta thing can screw with kids heads!

[SkizaWWE]

I love this book series called Artemis Fowl about a 12 year old criminal mastermind who was so bored by the world that he put his superior intelligence into criminal activity and was highly successful. When i think about him and Iago, they're quite similar. Maybe Iago's superior intelligence resulted in him being bored with acting in good nature and allowed himself to turn to criminal activity.

[tomatoes]

And the fact that Cassio took his place gave him a reason to put his superior intelligence in action to plan all of the criminal activity.
I like it :banana:
Thanks SkizzaWWE

[Aurelian]

Woah...Skiza, you justblew my mind!