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AuntShecky
09-19-2013, 07:14 PM
Maybe you've seen the extraordinary photo on the web or printed in the print version of your favorite newspaper of an unfortunate frog caught up in a rocket launch. Click on this link (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/09/12/nasa_frog_photobomb_image_nasa_cameras_catch_flyin g_frog_during_ladee_launch.html). If it just me, or is there something "fishy" (as well as froggy) about that pic?


Now I'm not a mathematician and I don't play one on tv,and far be it from the likes o' me to contradict the NASA scientists who insist that the photo hasn't been doctored, BUT--doesn't the perspective seem a little whacked? The ratio seems off-- by a lot. According to the National Geographic website, the largest of all North American frogs is about eight inches in length. The LADEE Minotaur V Rocket by contrast is 24.56 m. high-- that's about eighty and a half feet! So in relation to the rocket, and especially the launch tower on the far right, doesn't the poor little frog in the explosion look a little. . .well, large? He looks bigger than two of the steps in the launch's ladder. He looks almost human size.

Could this be a hoax or a publicity stunt for NASA's moon research (albeit worthy)? If not, we've got some monster-sized frogs over here in the Good Ol' U.S.A.!



http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/09/12/nasa_frog_photobomb_image_nasa_cameras_catch_flyin g_frog_during_ladee_launch.html

stlukesguild
09-19-2013, 07:28 PM
You are assuming that the frog is the same distance from the camera as the rocket, in which case he certainly would be far too large. On the other hand, he could be far closer to the camera than the rocket in which case linear perspective would impact just how large he (or she) appears.

Ecurb
09-19-2013, 07:39 PM
Since matter can neither be created or destroyed, we can assume that if a prince were bewitched into a frog, said frog would be considerably larger than 8 inches long. On the other hand, since the picture was taken in the U.S., our democratic disdain for royalty might preclude this explanation.

Calidore
09-19-2013, 07:54 PM
You are assuming that the frog is the same distance from the camera as the rocket, in which case he certainly would be far too large. On the other hand, he could be far closer to the camera than the rocket in which case linear perspective would impact just how large he (or she) appears.

Yep. A camera has only one eye, so no depth perception. Movies use this forced perspective all the time. For example, at the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring, when Gandalf and Frodo are riding together in the cart, Elijah Wood is actually sitting a few feet behind Ian McKellan.



Since matter can neither be created or destroyed, we can assume that if a prince were bewitched into a frog, said frog would be considerably larger than 8 inches long. On the other hand, since the picture was taken in the U.S., our democratic disdain for royalty might preclude this explanation.

Or the frog could still be frog size but prince weight.

Buh4Bee
09-19-2013, 09:43 PM
This hero may be making Kermit jealous of his 15 minutes of fame.

AuntShecky
09-20-2013, 02:39 PM
You are assuming that the frog is the same distance from the camera as the rocket, in which case he certainly would be far too large. On the other hand, he could be far closer to the camera than the rocket in which case linear perspective would impact just how large he (or she) appears.

If that's the case, the froggy is in front of the blast-off plume, not in the thick of it, and thus the picture is deceptive.

Gilliatt Gurgle
09-21-2013, 09:44 AM
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I’m reminded of a photograph I posted on my Bigfoot thread showing an unusual crop circle pattern ostensibly sculpted by extraterrestrials.

Please refer to the image below from “slickforcegirl. com” :

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae114/tabuka1/Misc%20Album/slickforce-girl-crop-circle-sighting_zpsb0216123.jpg (http://s963.photobucket.com/user/tabuka1/media/Misc%20Album/slickforce-girl-crop-circle-sighting_zpsb0216123.jpg.html)


While the “crop circle” pattern leaves no doubt as to its other worldly origins, the scale of the helicopter’s shadow raises doubts. I’m convinced there was no helicopter and that the shadow was “doctored up”. The scale of the chopper is too large based on a) viewpoint elevation above the ground, b) compared against the scale width of the farm equipment tracks, c) height of the plants based on the shadows they cast at the edges and d) compared to width of foot path to the upper right. In my estimation, the copter shadow is a little over twice as large as it should be.

Now, let’s turn our attention to our tri-phibious (land, water and sky) adventurer; let’s call him “Bull Gordon”. In this instance I believe the scale of elements, depth of field, layering of elements and perspective is plausible. Whether or not Bull Gordon was spliced into image may be another story, but the scale can be explained. Bull Gordon could be about 15 to 20 feet from the camera while the rocket, smoke and tower may be couple hundred feet beyond.


If that's the case, the froggy is in front of the blast-off plume, not in the thick of it, and thus the picture is deceptive.

Secondly, it is possible for an object to be photographed in front of another object.
Here’s a photo I took of Dr. Jeff Meldrum presenting his “Sasquatch Field Guide”:

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae114/tabuka1/Texas%20BFCon%202013/IMGP2969_zpsf19f7dc7.jpg (http://s963.photobucket.com/user/tabuka1/media/Texas%20BFCon%202013/IMGP2969_zpsf19f7dc7.jpg.html)

Note the gentleman’s head in the foreground, it appears much larger than the podium, yet we know his head is not actually larger than the podium.

Finally, why is Bull Gordon flying? The answer is simple, the initial blast thrust from the rocket engines initiated a simultaneous launch of Mr. Gordon sending him out in advance of the smoke plume.

Watch this video accompanied to a wonderful song performed by Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys to get a better understanding of blast forces (hold on to the very end)…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQhHfY1jh0M

cacian
09-21-2013, 10:12 AM
to me that looks like a helicopter toy. maybe if felt jealous the rocket took it out of its depth and significance so it decided to go miniature and show up next to the monster (rocket) and steal the limelight. who knows what goes in the mind of these toys. maybe Disney Pixar could shed some light on the jumping helicopter. other then that or it's a cricket being disturbed by nasa polluted junk. or as a third option it is a photoshop stunt. easily done
I fancy the helico myself see Gilliat pick of the heli. it is a similar idea :)