physical violence

[cacian]

what is the meaning of pain or more importantly what is the meaning of physical violence?
why are some of us prone to giving violence willingly or unwillingly and others willingly taking it ?

one particular aspect of violence comes to mind:
S&M erotica.
the first time I came across it I thought it violent. I still do. the use of chaining and whipping I feel is violent since the subject is subjected to acts of paining to the point of bleeding or screaming.

pain and physical violence go hand in hand and so so why does S &M gets away with it and others circumstances don't?

[cafolini]

Some people are scared of being simply what they are and the others are scared in the same way but in reverse. They are both victims of the same fear. It's the way it is. There is no room for the blah-blah of phylo-sophist opinions in this regard. This has absolutely no thing to do with pertinent violence to be considered and discussed, as is the case with democratic behavior vs terrorism.

[Darcy88]

I just watched a highlight clip of one of the most brutal and devastating martial artists in all of combat sports in which many bones were broken and concussions given. I quite enjoyed it. But I cringe at any display of violence in everyday life and also at gruesome scenes in films. Outside the ring I wish there was zero violence anytime, anywhere.

The kind of pornography you are talking about is fetishistic and has its niche but I don't think is frequently viewed by the average person. I'm sure there are psychological theories regarding some connection between sex and violence, but for me personally there is no relationship between the two. In a sense I actually view sex as antipodal to violence.

[JuniperWoolf]

I think I "need" to fight in the same way that musicians "need" to play their instrument or writers "need" to write. It's not an actual physical necessity, but if I go for too long without it I feel horrible. When I was a kid our taekwondo club used to break up for the summers because our instructor was a primary school teacher and took off every year. I felt useless and unfulfilled: I got depressed, sat in the basement, played video games, and thought about fighting all summer. My friend Woody said that he felt the same during his summers, but it was hockey he missed.

Anyway, I joined my first fighting sport when I was five, I literally begged my mother to put me in taekwondo instead of stupid jazz dancing class (what the **** mom, with those little neon-colored spandex outfits? I'm told that there were tears involved). I think I've just always loved fighting, like it's my inborn raison d'etre - or, maybe five-year-old me just watched Karate Kid too many times. In any case, it doesn't stem from some bubbling, rage-filled place of anger. I love fighting way too much to feel angry, instead it makes me feel exhilarated and euphoric, and I don't like fighting people in an informal setting. Actually I hate it, the whole notion of getting into an emotional brawl with someone over a disagreement makes me nauseous (I mean that, I feel physically sick and have to bail when drunk idiots try to fight me, as they inevitably do to everyone in a redneck town). It's completely trashy and taints the purity and artistry of the whole thing.

As for pain, the immediate sensation can be overwhelming, but after a while it kind of feels good, like a warmth. Tending to injuries is a ritual in itself. I like the look of it too, I'd feel bare and bland without bruises, I guess in the same way that others would feel without their tattoos.

I think I'll just avoid your questions about sex, although I will say that when I picture the classic image of leather and whips I always associate it with old flabby married couples.

[Paulclem]

I think I "need" to fight in the same way that musicians "need" to play their instrument or writers "need" to write. It's not an actual physical necessity, but if I go for too long without it I feel horrible. When I was a kid our taekwondo club used to break up for the summers because our instructor was a primary school teacher and took off every year. I felt useless and unfulfilled: I got depressed, sat in the basement, played video games, and thought about fighting all summer. My friend Woody said that he felt the same during his summers, but it was hockey he missed.

Anyway, I joined my first fighting sport when I was five, I literally begged my mother to put me in taekwondo instead of stupid jazz dancing class (what the **** mom, with those little neon-colored spandex outfits? I'm told that there were tears involved). I think I've just always loved fighting, like it's my inborn raison d'etre - or, maybe five-year-old me just watched Karate Kid too many times. In any case, it doesn't stem from some bubbling, rage-filled place of anger. I love fighting way too much to feel angry, instead it makes me feel exhilarated and euphoric, and I don't like fighting people in an informal setting. Actually I hate it, the whole notion of getting into an emotional brawl with someone over a disagreement makes me nauseous (I mean that, I feel physically sick and have to bail when drunk idiots try to fight me, as they inevitably do to everyone in a redneck town). It's completely trashy and taints the purity and artistry of the whole thing.

As for pain, the immediate sensation can be overwhelming, but after a while it kind of feels good, like a warmth. Tending to injuries is a ritual in itself. I like the look of it too, I'd feel bare and bland without bruises, I guess in the same way that others would feel without their tattoos.

I think I'll just avoid your questions about sex, although I will say that when I picture the classic image of leather and whips I always associate it with old flabby married couples.

I was a mild mannered child who didn't fight - though I often got involved in them - probably because kids knew I didn't want to. I began playing rugby and became used to the aggression, and physically more confident as a result. You're right about the pain. You get used to it, and don't notice it during a game. I noticed that becoming used to violence has a positive effect in that when it occurs, it doesn't faze you, whereas it can be traumatic for those not used to it. For that reason - and not to make quiet kids aggressive - I think contact sports are good.