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cacian
07-07-2013, 05:49 AM
gigolo is one '''interesting'' word for a male prostitute in comparison to a female ones that are rather left to be desired. :wink5:

Or maybe there is not any?
any thoughts?

papillondemai
07-07-2013, 12:12 PM
gigolo is one '''interesting'' word for a male prostitute in comparison to a female ones that are rather left to be desired. :wink5:


Do you mean that words for female prostitutes leave a lot to be desired in terms of how "interesting" they are? I don't know. I kind of disagree. The word "gigolo" is rather pretentious and has too many syllables. As if merely using a word from one of the so-called chic European languages could make something "interesting." Kind of like referring to a urinal as a "pissoir." I still like the punchy, down-to-earth honesty and straight forward monosyllabicity of the word "whore." And the word "hooker," although it has two syllables, still has the "k" sound, so that makes it funny, and therefore more "interesting." But the word "gigolo," I must say, does have that intrinsic and somewhat profound "go low" message going for it. But it still has too many syllables to bring it up the level of being as "interesting" as the classic word "whore."

Darcy88
07-07-2013, 02:31 PM
I prefer the term "male escort."

The Atheist
07-07-2013, 02:31 PM
gigolo is one '''interesting'' word for a male prostitute in comparison to a female ones that are rather left to be desired. :wink5:

Or maybe there is not any?
any thoughts?

Rent boy.

WyattGwyon
07-07-2013, 03:10 PM
gigolo is one '''interesting'' word for a male prostitute in comparison to a female ones that are rather left to be desired. :wink5:

Or maybe there is not any?
any thoughts?

The term gigolo, I believe, is not in any way comparable to the terms for professional female sex workers (whore, hooker, lady of the night . . .), but in fact applies to relationships more like those between affluent older men and their much younger kept women or mistresses. Thus a gigolo is usually a younger man kept by an older woman of means, possibly with the understanding—or cultivated illusion—of a more or less exclusive relationship.

Lokasenna
07-07-2013, 03:12 PM
I once got mistaken for a prostitute in a Travelodge in Cambridge. A strange experience - given my looks and dress, I would be catering to a rather odd group of clients...

As for the difference between male and female prostitutes... well, there are thousands of euphemisims...

WyattGwyon
07-07-2013, 03:27 PM
I once got mistaken for a prostitute in a Travelodge in Cambridge. A strange experience - given my looks and dress, I would be catering to a rather odd group of clients...

As for the difference between male and female prostitutes... well, there are thousands of euphemisims...

I'm sorry, Lokasenna, but when a card-carrying male medievalist is mistaken for a prostitute, be assured, your readership is going to want details—you tease you!

cacian
07-07-2013, 03:27 PM
I prefer the term "male escort."

that would be the same female escort. why do you prefer it?


Rent boy.

why boy though? and not man or male? I am pedantic because the word 'boy' is rather misplaced and so is rent which straight away means money or a lack of it for that matter.

papillondemai
07-07-2013, 06:23 PM
I still like "whore." To use one set of words to describe males that are prostitutes and another to describe females that are prostitutes seems sexist. They are all "whores." For literary purposes, however, it would be valid, in a fiction story, and funny, to refer to a real butch, lesbian female prostitute as a "rent boy" to mess with her head, especially if the character thought of herself as a "real man" type.

Darcy88
07-07-2013, 06:41 PM
I still like "whore." To use one set of words to describe males that are prostitutes and another to describe females that are prostitutes seems sexist. They are all "whores." For literary purposes, however, it would be valid, in a fiction story, and funny, to refer to a real butch, lesbian female prostitute as a "rent boy" to mess with her head, especially if the character thought of herself as a "real man" type.

"Whore" is too derogatory. The profession is not deserving of such denigration.

WyattGwyon
07-07-2013, 10:19 PM
"Whore" is too derogatory. The profession is not deserving of such denigration.

Hear hear!

Calidore
07-07-2013, 10:28 PM
the difference between a male and a female prostitute?


Boobs. Among other things.

*Classic*Charm*
07-07-2013, 10:36 PM
"Whore" is too derogatory.

Agreed. That word is repulsive.

mortalterror
07-07-2013, 10:42 PM
I once got mistaken for a prostitute in a Travelodge in Cambridge. A strange experience - given my looks and dress, I would be catering to a rather odd group of clients...

As for the difference between male and female prostitutes... well, there are thousands of euphemisims...

Well, I guess prostitutes around Cambridge have to cater to a different more sophisticated clientele. Instead of thigh high boots and garters they wear tweed jackets with elbow patches and smoke a pipe. Plus, you need a masters in fornication from Oxford and four years post-graduate work in Milan.

papillondemai
07-08-2013, 12:58 AM
"Whore" is too derogatory and repulsive? Hm. I wonder what whores think? Anyway that is why I am coming to love this forum. People here defend whores. I love that. And I too defend whores. I love whores. I am using the word with affection; kind of like the way Joseph Heller used it in Catch-22 to refer to "Nately's whore." Nately's whore was a sympathetic character. There is nothing repulsive about her.

Darcy88
07-08-2013, 01:16 AM
John of Patmos kind of gave the word "whore" a bit of a negative connotation.

"17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. ["Fornication" is interpreted/translated as "idolatry" in the Amplified Bible (AMP), the New American Bible mentions "harlotry"]
17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written a mystery: Babylon The Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the Earth. [King James Version);' the New International Version uses "prostitutes" instead of "harlots"].
17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."

kiki1982
07-08-2013, 04:56 AM
Well, male prostitutes have shlongs, female ones don't, although there are so-called hermaphrodites in the industry (women with shlongs, so to say) who satisfy the right public, I supppose...
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ABout rent boy:

Ever seen the BBC series Tipping the Velvet? (adaptation of a novel, but I can't remember by whom) That was about two women who posed as rent boys in the Belle Epoque, so end of the 19th-beginning of the 20th century. These people were called 'rent boys', because they were usually working class boys (children, teenagers, young men probably up to about 18 I expect) who made some extra cash by letting wealthy gentlemen touch their privates. Probably more too in the public toilets or whatever. I suppose there must have been a few real male prostitutes, but it was a dangerous business you could go to prison for (called 'buggery' :D), so you could probably not do it as overtly as whores (at the time) in Whitechapel.

cacian
07-08-2013, 06:00 AM
Well, male prostitutes have shlongs, female ones don't, although there are so-called hermaphrodites in the industry (women with shlongs, so to say) who satisfy the right public, I supppose....

kiki I have to admit I had to look up the word ''schlong'' I have never heard it in English before.


ABout rent boy:

Ever seen the BBC series Tipping the Velvet? (adaptation of a novel, but I can't remember by whom) That was about two women who posed as rent boys in the Belle Epoque, so end of the 19th-beginning of the 20th century. These people were called 'rent boys', because they were usually working class boys (children, teenagers, young men probably up to about 18 I expect) who made some extra cash by letting wealthy gentlemen touch their privates. Probably more too in the public toilets or whatever. I suppose there must have been a few real male prostitutes, but it was a dangerous business you could go to prison for (called 'buggery' :D), so you could probably not do it as overtly as whores (at the time) in Whitechapel.
I remember the title but I did not watch the series. I am just wondering why would women pose as rent boy in the Bellle Epoque.
One would presumably they know are not a man eventually.
about hermaphrodite in the industry do you mean men who has had a sex change?

Lokasenna
07-08-2013, 02:10 PM
I'm sorry, Lokasenna, but when a card-carrying male medievalist is mistaken for a prostitute, be assured, your readership is going to want details—you tease you!

Well...

I was going to a conference in Cambridge, and gave my supervisor (who was one of the speakers) a lift. I had booked a room at a Travelodge a few miles outside of Cambridge, and stopped on the way to pick up my room key. Once we got into Cambridge proper, my supervisor was shown to the room that the conference organisers had set aside for him. The room was a little on the basic side, not to mention next to a very noisy road, so my supervisor (not wanting to offend the organisers, who were trying their best) thanked them for the room, then quietly asked me to book him a room in the same Travelodge that I was in - which I did.

Anyway, after the day's festivities, I drove us back to the Travelodge around about midnight. At the reception my supervisor collected his key and then turned to me and said 'Do you have..?', trailing off in such a way as to indicate whether I already had my key and anything else I might need - at which point the man behind the Reception Desk suddenly went 'Oh!' and vanished for thirty seconds, before returning with a pile of clean bedding which he solemnly gave to me before wandering off again. Perplexed, we set off upstairs - and it was only then that I realised the implication. The bedding was to replace the soiled bedding after the deed, and the strange behaviour of the receptionist was suddenly horribly explainable...

So, yes, I've been mistaken for a rent boy. Obviously one catering to a very select group of people with highly unusual tastes...

papillondemai
07-08-2013, 03:30 PM
Well...

I was going to a conference in Cambridge, and gave my supervisor (who was one of the speakers) a lift. I had booked a room at a Travelodge a few miles outside of Cambridge, and stopped on the way to pick up my room key. Once we got into Cambridge proper, my supervisor was shown to the room that the conference organisers had set aside for him. The room was a little on the basic side, not to mention next to a very noisy road, so my supervisor (not wanting to offend the organisers, who were trying their best) thanked them for the room, then quietly asked me to book him a room in the same Travelodge that I was in - which I did.

Anyway, after the day's festivities, I drove us back to the Travelodge around about midnight. At the reception my supervisor collected his key and then turned to me and said 'Do you have..?', trailing off in such a way as to indicate whether I already had my key and anything else I might need - at which point the man behind the Reception Desk suddenly went 'Oh!' and vanished for thirty seconds, before returning with a pile of clean bedding which he solemnly gave to me before wandering off again. Perplexed, we set off upstairs - and it was only then that I realised the implication. The bedding was to replace the soiled bedding after the deed, and the strange behaviour of the receptionist was suddenly horribly explainable...

So, yes, I've been mistaken for a rent boy. Obviously one catering to a very select group of people with highly unusual tastes...

Maybe they find a lot of that among people that go to conferences in Cambridge?

WyattGwyon
07-08-2013, 05:32 PM
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kiki I have to admit I had to look up the word ''schlong'' I have never heard it in English before.


English incorporates words from many languages. This one, I believe, comes from Yiddish(?)

WyattGwyon
07-08-2013, 05:36 PM
Well...

The bedding was to replace the soiled bedding after the deed, and the strange behaviour of the receptionist was suddenly horribly explainable...

So, yes, I've been mistaken for a rent boy. Obviously one catering to a very select group of people with highly unusual tastes...

Yes, but mistaken for a fastidious one at least! And what admirable discretion on the receptionist's part. Thanks!