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Steven Hunley
07-05-2013, 01:41 PM
When I started writing, I thought to be accurate, I'd use lots of adjectives. Figured they'd strengthen a piece. Instead, in many cases, they only served to weaken it. But then again, you know how writing is, it's pragmatic, and there may be cases where excessive adjectives actually help. Is the following an example?

All Sold Out
by
Steven Hunley


Again, a song rang out from the jukebox. It was the Rolling Stones; written when they were in their bad-boy period, tough attitude-towards-women-period, Brian Jones-is-about-to-leave-because-he’s getting-far-too-loaded-on-a regular-basis-and can’t-be-depended-upon-for-his-musical-genius period.

Titled All Sold Out, it seemed to match Lawrence’s mood at the moment, as he scrolled through his limited vocabulary, searching for a word that accurately described his feelings.

Besmirched, bewildered, betrayed, left-behind, abandoned, run-aground, sinking, suffocated, stepped-on, squashed, flattened, destroyed, obliterated. No matter the word, it would lack the power to accurately describe his pathetic condition.

Every memory, every intimate conversation with his ex-lover was tainted, and left a bad taste in his mouth. The memory of each exquisite kiss, which when they were hundred of miles apart brought him sweet hours of solace, he wanted to spit out like venom.

Larry's love had been sold out at discount, like a worthless piece of damaged goods.



http://youtu.be/aiDLxsT3OpQ All Sold Out

AuntShecky
07-09-2013, 04:05 PM
Good question, Steve. You've got me thinking of what the word "modifier" implies.

The conventional wisdom is that a strong verb beats out a weak verb with an adverb every time. That notion likewise applies to strong nouns vs. weak nouns plus adjectives. Too many adjectives may also suggest that the prose is too dependent on forms of the verb "to be," or --you should excuse the expression-- "copulative" verbs.

Nick Capozzoli
07-18-2013, 10:48 PM
Good question, Steve. You've got me thinking of what the word "modifier" implies.

The conventional wisdom is that a strong verb beats out a weak verb with an adverb every time. That notion likewise applies to strong nouns vs. weak nouns plus adjectives. Too many adjectives may also suggest that the prose is too dependent on forms of the verb "to be," or --you should excuse the expression-- "copulative" verbs.

The numerous "modifiers" in the OP's 3rd paragraph seem to work OK, perhaps because they are directly derived from active verbs.

Steven Hunley
11-12-2017, 03:24 PM
I see what you mean by weak and strong (and evocative) nouns and verbs. This is great stuff to consider.

Bowler
12-01-2017, 07:45 PM
Besmirched, bewildered, betrayed, left-behind, abandoned, run-aground, sinking, suffocated, stepped-on, squashed, flattened, destroyed, obliterated.
The answer is a yes, also it reads like a list too, another no no.

An interesting post, I think many of us have personal dislikes that stop us in our tracks
My examples for what there worth are.
Over embellishing every line in the misconception that by doing so makes for good poetry.
Trying to impress the reader with home spun philosophy.
Adding words such as Really, Big, Very, to adjectives to heighten their effect, just select the right adjective, it doesn’t need any help.
References to the ‘soul’ mostly in love poems. I’ve searched my body for mine but no luck, but then perhaps I was born without one.
And last for some reason any form of writing that contains the words ‘Azure Skies’

I stress that the above is my personal dislikes and is not meant to be a comment in general terms. After all you may love a touch of garlic on your food but even the faintest wiff of the stuff well set me heading for the door.

Pompey Bum
12-01-2017, 10:00 PM
Bowler of Souls

Azure skies
Like boundless souls
With really big eyes
Mirrors and holes
Holding our lies
Yesterday's spuds
Today's fries
Amen

Pompey Bum
12-01-2017, 10:01 PM
A Poem So Nice
I Posted It Twice

Azure skies
Like boundless souls
With really big eyes
Mirrors and holes
Holding our lies
Yesterday's spuds
Today's fries
Amen

kiz_paws
12-28-2017, 06:25 AM
A Poem So Nice
I Posted It Twice

Azure skies
Like boundless souls
With really big eyes
Mirrors and holes
Holding our lies
Yesterday's spuds
Today's fries
Amen:lol: How the hey did I miss this!! Too funny.
When I started writing, I thought to be accurate, I'd use lots of adjectives. Figured they'd strengthen a piece. Instead, in many cases, they only served to weaken it. But then again, you know how writing is, it's pragmatic, and there may be cases where excessive adjectives actually help. Is the following an example?I think it is a good example.

Makes me remember creative writing in the high school years -- our instructor declared that in order to write 'effectively' one must obtain a good thesaurus... I wondered how he ever became a creative writing instructor, but anyhow, that was a million years ago.

Francis Meadows
02-04-2019, 01:12 PM
"The beginner should avoid using adjectives, except those of colour, size and number. Use as few adverbs as possible."

That's one of V.S. Naipaul's seven rules for beginners.

That being said, in my opinion there are no real rules for writing. You are free to go where you want in your writing, that is the great thing about it.

The many adjectives in the above excerpt do not bother me. They rather make the reader feel just how puzzled and lost the character is. So, I'd say, go for it.

Francis

Steven Hunley
02-26-2019, 03:40 PM
This is good advice. The exact word, the precise word, may not need an adjective.

Danik 2016
02-27-2019, 12:36 PM
I think it all depends of the function of the adjectives in the text:
"Besmirched, bewildered, betrayed, left-behind, abandoned, run-aground, sinking, suffocated, stepped-on, squashed, flattened, destroyed, obliterated. No matter the word, it would lack the power to accurately describe his pathetic condition."
I liked this paragraph, because the profusion of adjectives in the line above reinforces the lost and "pathetic condition" of the protagonist.

Of course, there are bad writers who fill their texts with unnecessary and meaningless adjectives. The effect is that of excess of confetti on a birthday cake.

Good writers follow their own rules, great writers maybe create new ones.

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03-19-2019, 03:33 AM
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Steven Hunley
05-06-2019, 11:32 PM
You're welcome!!

jorgealarcon
06-03-2019, 03:00 PM
Thanks for sharing. I see your point.

Pompey Bum
06-04-2019, 06:10 PM
As many as necessary and as few as possible. Writing's easy.

prendrelemick
09-17-2019, 07:08 AM
Slow black, crow black, fishing boat bobbing sea. is very magnificently good.

Zoey141
09-24-2019, 04:11 AM
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