Is man getting lonelier and lonelier?

[osho]

Man has been a recluse, forlorn more than ever before. You do not have to agree. This is the truth. And of course man is enjoying more freedom and a sense of individualism but he has to hugely pay for it. This ever increaing reclusion is detressing him and that is why I have read in some papers the suicide rate is on incline in the US and I am sure is the same in other countiries too.

I feel happiness or sadness are things to be shared and when one is getting lonelier he cannot share it. Today we are living in a world of many possibilities and yet ma is bereft, stripped and live stressfully.

I sound pessimist. Yet I want to addres it since hiding something does not open up the floodgate of healings.

[Shaman_Raman]

From this thread and your last, I can tell solitude and loneliness have been on your mind. Feeling lonely Osho?

To address your first point, I don't think loneliness is the sole factor in suicide. Granted, it's a big part of it, but there's many other cultural things to consider: social classes, social media, bullying, dysfunctional and broken families, etc... I suppose loneliness is more of an effect from those things, but really there's a lot at play for why people feel so isolated. Which is ironic, because most of us in the developed countries aren't restricted or denied the right to see or associate with anybody. Further, how ironic that the internet has brought people thousands of miles away so close, and yet we still have a sense of loneliness.

My advise is to go live your life, if your part of this lonely category. How? Figure out your personal hobbies and interests (not the ones you might post on Facebook for show, true hobbies) and pursue them. The best way to fight loneliness is to meet others with interests like your own, it allows for conversation, friendship, so on..

"Isn't it funny how freedom, can make us feel contained? When the muscles in our legs aren't used to all the walking."
Foster the People.

You have the freedom to isolate yourself, and the freedom to put yourself out there.

[cafolini]

The lone ranger is coming back.

[YesNo]

Man has been a recluse, forlorn more than ever before. You do not have to agree. This is the truth. And of course man is enjoying more freedom and a sense of individualism but he has to hugely pay for it. This ever increaing reclusion is detressing him and that is why I have read in some papers the suicide rate is on incline in the US and I am sure is the same in other countiries too.

I feel happiness or sadness are things to be shared and when one is getting lonelier he cannot share it. Today we are living in a world of many possibilities and yet ma is bereft, stripped and live stressfully.

I sound pessimist. Yet I want to addres it since hiding something does not open up the floodgate of healings.

Based on this article, the suicide increase in the US is related to unemployment not increased isolation: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/health/us-suicide-rate-rose-during-recession-study-finds.html?_r=0

People who commit suicide seem to think punishing survivors will help in some way. They also believe, once dead, that there are no longer any consequences for them. Without subscribing to any particular religion, I don't see any reason to believe that death is the end given out-of-body experiences, near and shared death experiences or even psychic communication with the dead. In other words, the belief that death is the end of one's consciousness is simply that--a belief--and that belief is held in the face of evidence to the contrary.

If one doesn't completely die, how does suicide actually benefit the one committing it?

I think the stress you mention is real and it is based on fear of events that don't actually materialize or if they do, don't have the consequences one imagines them to have. This is probably not easy, but one might as well face whatever one is experiencing, even if it is unpleasant.

[cacian]

The lone ranger is coming back.

LOL on horseback or on foot?

[osho]

I am watching people in my part of the world, immensely frustrated, on account of the fact that they are unaccompanied, and they have no institutions or charity organization to rehabilitate them. These aged, un-wealthy people who would be living on allowances in developed countries are disposed of socially. Their children too much with their own world for making a living and raising their living standards have little time and money for them. These old people with no retirement schemes or funds are starving in many parts of the country I am in.

Even in wealthy countries children do not take care of their parents, modernization, globalization, industrialization, commercialization and the like are gradually diminishing human beings and they are less sensitive now and are too much self-centered. Is not this the driver to make people much lonelier

[YesNo]

I don't see how "modernization, globalization, industrialization, commercialization" is causing children to not take care of their parents, if that is the cause of loneliness.

[osho]

It is keeping pepple apart

[Oedipus]

Based on this article, the suicide increase in the US is related to unemployment not increased isolation: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/health/us-suicide-rate-rose-during-recession-study-finds.html?_r=0

People who commit suicide seem to think punishing survivors will help in some way. They also believe, once dead, that there are no longer any consequences for them. Without subscribing to any particular religion, I don't see any reason to believe that death is the end given out-of-body experiences, near and shared death experiences or even psychic communication with the dead. In other words, the belief that death is the end of one's consciousness is simply that--a belief--and that belief is held in the face of evidence to the contrary.

If one doesn't completely die, how does suicide actually benefit the one committing it?

I think the stress you mention is real and it is based on fear of events that don't actually materialize or if they do, don't have the consequences one imagines them to have. This is probably not easy, but one might as well face whatever one is experiencing, even if it is unpleasant.

It is well known that out of body experiences are caused by repeatable chemical reactions in the brain. These end with death. Communication with the dead is nonsense and requires no rebuke. If one survives after death, though; why should we assume that it is better to live? If death is not the end than it may well get better for suicidal people if the new experiences after death are better than the ones prior, and then they may benefit.

In any case; I know that I sure am getting lonelier.