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freestory
05-01-2013, 03:55 PM
He turned his view from the window, where the dark still roosting heavily, towards the o'clock on the wall.
Sulk
Got his head out of the the window looking to the eastern horizon.
Ported nervously. snatched the o'clock from the wall and face it to the sky then he took a look to his body lying on the bed
He shouted desperately " get me out of this nightmare"

hillwalker
05-01-2013, 04:48 PM
What's an o'clock?
How does the dark roost? or even roost heavily?
Ported? What does that mean?

I'm sorry, I'm probably going to get criticised yet again by the moderators for failing to offer constructive criticism. But if you can't write the most basic sentence in English what is the point of posting your work on here?

H

cafolini
05-01-2013, 04:57 PM
Bambino va la scuola perque debe apprender. LOL

hillwalker
05-01-2013, 05:20 PM
This site seems to have morphed into a kindergartners' playground for posting any old rubbish.

(lol - not)

H

Grit
05-01-2013, 05:40 PM
I agree this doesn't mean much of anything to anyone who is fluent in English.

cafolini
05-01-2013, 06:03 PM
I agree this doesn't mean much of anything to anyone who is fluent in English.

What do you mean? Whether you are fluent or not, it means exactly what it means and it's not contagious. Prohibiting it will throw away the history of evidence. LitNet is one of the best forums around because it doesn't ban it. Let it be. Or if you lose who you are over this, let me see your temper tantrum. LOL

AuntShecky
05-01-2013, 06:12 PM
What's an o'clock?
How does the dark roost? or even roost heavily?
Ported? What does that mean?

I'm sorry, I'm probably going to get criticised yet again by the moderators for failing to offer constructive criticism. But if you can't write the most basic sentence in English what is the point of posting your work on here?

H

How is asking the legitimate questions you've asked NOT "constructive criticism"? I can't see anyone, moderators included, calling you out for telling the truth.

If somebody posts gibberish and noone points out where he's gone astray, then he or she will think careless writing is perfectly all right. Without judicious criticism, his posting is merely a waste of bandwidth, as well as a waste of readers' time.

Sometimes the best way to help a beginning writer is to tell him to step back, start reading,
and try to learn about the craft.

Grit
05-01-2013, 06:14 PM
it means exactly what it means and it's not contagious.

Okay, what does it mean?

Also, I'm not proposing banning it. I'm just saying it doesn't make much sense.

cafolini
05-01-2013, 06:55 PM
Okay, what does it mean?

Also, I'm not proposing banning it. I'm just saying it doesn't make much sense.

To me it makes perfect sense in what it is. Bambino/a is good at it. It's funny. If it didn't make any sense you wouldn't be able to say anything about it.

Shaman_Raman
05-02-2013, 05:55 PM
He turned his view from the window, where the dark still roosting heavily, towards the o'clock on the wall.
Sulk
Got his head out of the the window looking to the eastern horizon.
Ported nervously. snatched the o'clock from the wall and face it to the sky then he took a look to his body lying on the bed
He shouted desperately " get me out of this nightmare"

I feel like you're trying to come off as sophisticated and deep...But this is too vague and illegible to gain anything from.

I think Hillīs referring to when he got roasted for critiquing some of the student's works that were posted a little bit ago. Which was ridiculous, because it's not fair to ask us readers to critique one piece, and ignore another.

hillwalker
05-02-2013, 06:23 PM
If it didn't make any sense you wouldn't be able to say anything about it.

But I did - I said it makes no sense. Do try to keep up.

There was a time, less than 2 years ago, when there were lots of new aspiring writers who regularly posted excellent work on here - looking for simple advice on how to take the next step up.
Recently (in the last 6 months or so) this site seems to have become inundated with illiterate dross.
Where are all the talented newbies?
Presumably they take one look at the calibre of what is being posted on here day in day out and decide to search for peer reviews elsewhere.

I'm not proposing we ban this stuff either.
Maybe we should have a separate Thread for students looking to learn how to write coherently in English rather than have their posts placed alongside those who take writing seriously and are looking to learn how to write effectively. There is a difference.
The first poster needs grammatical and syntactical guidance at an elementary level - nothing more. The second is looking for feedback on style, plot structure, character development, and all the other elements that separate good writing from bad.

If we're going to be reduced on here to giving basic instruction in how to write in English then let me know and I'll get my coat now.

H

cafolini
05-02-2013, 07:53 PM
But I did - I said it makes no sense. Do try to keep up.

There was a time, less than 2 years ago, when there were lots of new aspiring writers who regularly posted excellent work on here - looking for simple advice on how to take the next step up.
Recently (in the last 6 months or so) this site seems to have become inundated with illiterate dross.
Where are all the talented newbies?
Presumably they take one look at the calibre of what is being posted on here day in day out and decide to search for peer reviews elsewhere.

I'm not proposing we ban this stuff either.
Maybe we should have a separate Thread for students looking to learn how to write coherently in English rather than have their posts placed alongside those who take writing seriously and are looking to learn how to write effectively. There is a difference.
The first poster needs grammatical and syntactical guidance at an elementary level - nothing more. The second is looking for feedback on style, plot structure, character development, and all the other elements that separate good writing from bad.

If we're going to be reduced on here to giving basic instruction in how to write in English then let me know and I'll get my coat now.

H

It should be possible to have a special thread for more advanced stuff, where to be able to post the candidate should pass an entrance examination by posting one story with good grammar. The problem is: who will supervise it? I wouldn't be opposed to that up front. It would then be a thread to teach something with some proper prerequisites.

Delta40
05-02-2013, 08:32 PM
There will always be those who think they are at the advanced level. What do you propose the examination should be cafolini? And while we're on the subject, perhaps the critics should be subject to the same prerequisites. Many a lit-nutter (naming no names of course) post the most meaningless dross for no other reason but to antagonize or feel they are 'coming off as sophisticated and deep' offering up nothing useful to a budding writer except for the sound of their keyboard tapping voice.

Grit
05-02-2013, 08:44 PM
There will always be those who think they are at the advanced level. What do you propose the examination should be cafolini? And while we're on the subject, perhaps the critics should be subject to the same prerequisites. Many a lit-nutter (naming no names of course) post the most meaningless dross for no other reason but to antagonize or feel they are 'coming off as sophisticated and deep' offering up nothing useful to a budding writer except for the sound of their keyboard tapping voice.

LOL yes I know what you mean.

Steven Hunley
05-02-2013, 10:39 PM
LOL yes I know what you mean.


Delta shoots straight from the hip-AND she's accurate. I would have ignored this one, 'cause that's what I usually do, but see here author, we just can't make out what you mean, no offense.