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cacian
04-08-2013, 07:12 AM
In the UK it is systematic of a constitution founded on Monarchy and therefore class system is according to heritage and position as well as education.
As a detour from it a new arriviste class system is also established upon wealth and not the above. Maybe a slight comparison would be the French term for ''Bourgoisie''

I amawondering if the divide of the class system is caused rather then implied and therefore is seen to be the route cause of social depravities where the rich is punished for the poor's welfare. Or is it to do with the lack of cohesion coherence between the systems not being adhered together.
Does society divides into classes not because it wants to divide but to derive from each other?

What would say is your class background?

osho
04-08-2013, 08:14 AM
In the UK it is systematic of a constitution founded on Monarchy and therefore class system is according to heritage and position as well as education.
As a detour from it a new arriviste class system is also established upon wealth and not the above. Maybe a slight comparison would be the French term for ''Bourgoisie''

I amawondering if the divide of the class system is caused rather then implied and therefore is seen to be the route cause of social depravities where the rich is punished for the poor's welfare. Or is it to do with the lack of cohesion coherence between the systems not being adhered together.
Does society divides into classes not because it wants to divide but to derive from each other?

What would say is your class background?
I think you might amply have heard about the Occupy Wall Street campaign. This is a voice of the voiceless, of the deprived and the 1 percent affluent and the other 99 percent unfortunate. If this is not a class system then what is? This great ridge is shackling America in the most ferocious state an of course the age old pride of America is likely to collapse if this great divide is not evened up. Amerce is hazarding itself and the few who take pride in amassing or monopolizing over the resources of the country will have to bear the undesired outcome- the revolution, the kind France and Russia had undergone

cafolini
04-08-2013, 01:05 PM
Society is naturally divided into class systems since the dawn of history.
And Osho's unhesitant and costant exaggerations and propaganda are ridiculous. To think that the affluent are only 1% is ignorance.

kev67
04-08-2013, 07:27 PM
It seems to me that America and most other countries must have some sort of class system. Maybe class distinctions in the US were not as distinctly defined as the UK's used to be.

Revolte
04-08-2013, 09:25 PM
Having lived in a surplus of different extremes of living situations.

There is certainly a class system.

But what I can tell you is the poor are punished by the wealthy, for not meeting the standards of accepted wealth. We ban homelessness in fear of how it makes business look.

We have a capitalist economy. This means there is a hierarchy separated from lesser to greater importance that is based on how much a persons monetary worth is. The more you are worth, the greater you are treated.

Frankly our constitution and any set of written law is unimportant here. I'm sure plenty of conservatives and liberals will find a way to horridly argue that. But it's pretty hard to deny unless you are intentionally attempting to deny it, rather then paying attention and coming to a thought out conclusion.

For example, there was a cop recently in Texas who raped a homeless women. He only got a year in prison and can still be a cop in any other State. If she was a person of wealth, say a CEO or some sort, things probably would have been different. There is a similar, more recent, rape case where the girl has become shamed and the rapists have become victimized (as they are college football players). However, we also have a very strong rape culture.

A few years ago Downtown Modesto started banning the homeless because they felt that they were a negative example and would hurt business just by being there.

A year or two later, Merced followed the same trend.

Capitalism and class segregation go hand in hand. Just as I would expect so in any other form of hierarchical systems.

If you have a poor, middle class, and high class, then you have a class system. There are plenty of people who don't exactly fit the usual segregation, but you don't, and won't, hear a lot about them. They are usually your travelers and sometimes squatters. People who do not always have lots of money, but have enough urban knowledge and survival skill to live a life that would suggest other wise if the homelessness was not mentioned. Just as there are some people who are wealthy, but drop it all at certain points in the year to, again, travel. The latter may be a special case.

cacian
04-09-2013, 08:17 AM
Hi Revolte and nice to see you back :)how do you mean by

we also have a very strong rape culture.
Do you mean it is the norms to act on rape? that it is expected?
I feel that horrendous things such as this transcend classes and that the only way to address the balance is through societical subjectery ie for classes to link up through through matters of society and once the chain is made there are for better lives.


Capitalism and class segregation go hand in hand. Just as I would expect so in any other form of hierarchical systems.
I think capitalism is as a result of classes segregation. Ie whilst classes differences deepen capitalism worsen in the sense that more people are poor and the richer are rich. This means money is taken from side of society and given to another side of society hence the poor. Classes are nothing to do with poverty they are more the facilitator to the bourgeoisies the new arriviste. Classes are then made to look out of context because of it.
The fundamental of classes is to work in harmony and establish a sense of link between all people of different background.