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SilentMute
03-19-2013, 11:49 AM
I upload videos to Youtube. I do a variety of things. Of course, occasionally I get some nasty comments.

I never understood the type of psyche that feels the need to go around leaving nasty comments. If I don't like or agree with something, I just leave. However, since I've been putting up videos...what surprises me most of all are the videos that I'm likely to get nasty comments on. If I got them on my video game videos, I don't think I would be so surprised. However, the video that gets it the most is my tutorial on making homemade clay.

Of course, this is my most popular video--the only video of mine that has went past a thousand views. Perhaps it is its popularity that draws trolls to me.

Anybody else have their theories about trolls?

cafolini
03-19-2013, 12:34 PM
People troll, I think, because it is true that there might be a problem with what is said as well as what is not said. But you are correct that nasty comments befall the most popular. Envy is often the motivation.

Jack of Hearts
03-19-2013, 12:36 PM
Genuine confusion of psychic boundaries; legitimate questions pertaining to non-material existence.

Also, for the 'lulz.'









J

cacian
03-19-2013, 01:21 PM
I don't even know who invented the word ''troll'' .I am guessing it is the same person who tranched the word blog and fred blog and blurb and google and so one . They are all a computer terminology.That someone qualifies to answer it for all of us.
''The one who thinks it first means it'' or so I say . Computers create a hub of stalkers hackers and evidently trolls and in between are left those who try to make some sense out of it all.
I am guessing trolling is an international hobbie for those who entertain the idea of computer technology control. They are what I call opportunist they spot something and then they become its shadow. A bit like the phantom of the opera it only appears because he has a '' tell tell song'' to sing because he has heard and then learned and now he is about to tranch it flog it his way and it is anything but logic.

JBI
03-19-2013, 01:22 PM
because the internet is anonymous. Put people's name beside their work and they become a different person.

LitNetIsGreat
03-19-2013, 01:56 PM
I don't know, maybe just because there are a lot of morons out there? It is perhaps true as well that the anonymity of the internet allows such morons to flourish. You Tube does appear to be particularly bad though. Yes it does seem strange that someone watching a video about clay making would post nasty comments, but there you go. It's like I said, morons and a lots of them I'm afraid.

Desolation
03-19-2013, 02:37 PM
The same reason anyone engages in disreputable, questionable behavior - it's probably fun.

There also, probably, some psychological issues at play. They live dull, mundane lives, and they're painfully insecure about everything facet of their lives. Belittling others makes them feel better. It makes them feel big, or at least not as small. Add to this the high likelihood that they've never learned basic empathy, and don't understand why being an ******* is bad. Oh, and did I mention that it's probably fun?

Some men aren't looking for anything logical... (http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30633712.jpg)

AuntShecky
03-19-2013, 02:55 PM
Shortly after the highway department tore down the bridge to make way for the new Interstate ramp and the three billy goats gruff had been moved to an animal sanctuary, there was little left for the troll to do other than harassing folks on the Internet.

liza
03-19-2013, 03:13 PM
people troll because they have deeper problems bothering them .. it makes them feel better .. like shopping

Lokasenna
03-19-2013, 03:52 PM
Troll - a dreadful ogre-like creature from Norse mythology. Avatars of chaos and desctruction, and associated with the end of the world. Almost universally female, and famed for their pronounced and varied sexual appetites.

As for why modern people troll, well, I guess some people get off on the anonymity of it all.

cacian
03-19-2013, 04:12 PM
Troll - a dreadful ogre-like creature from Norse mythology. Avatars of chaos and desctruction, and associated with the end of the world. Almost universally female, and famed for their pronounced and varied sexual appetites.

wow this a real eye opener. I have always felt the word TROLL a masculine one only because it does not end with an E. I am French speaker and so all feminine words end with E. Troll in my mind does not. How interesting.


As for why modern people troll, well, I guess some people get off on the anonymity of it all.
I guess anonymity is maybe the reasons why trolls are but I am sure there is more to it then meets the eye. I sure don't want to know. :)

papayahed
03-19-2013, 05:31 PM
A coworker once told me that when he's miserable and unhappy he wants everybody else to be the same. He is the human embodiment of a troll. He is not a nice person.

liza
03-19-2013, 05:40 PM
A coworker once told me that when he's miserable and unhappy he wants everybody else to be the same. He is the human embodiment of a troll. He is not a nice person.

have you seen the movie ''sleep tight" .. ? there was a guy in the movie .. like your coworker .. :)
ok .. I belive when people are unhappy .. don't want others to be happy .. is normal .. :)
can you handle to see very happy people when you are unhappy ?.. personally I get angry :)

Shaman_Raman
03-19-2013, 05:52 PM
I find it a win-win for everyone to just cut someone out of my sight or life if seeing particular people happy makes me unhappy. Is that better or worse than just saying a snotty remark to them?

SilentMute
03-19-2013, 07:18 PM
Probably we have all been guilty of unintentional trolling. I know I have, when I think about it. You are unhappy or stressed out, and then you read a comment that hits a nerve. Maybe you are up late at night, can't sleep--and you say something that if you thought about it more, you wouldn't have.

I only mind happy people (when I'm unhappy) when they try to make me happy. I know this sounds terrible, because that shouldn't be offensive. However, it stresses me out when people try to make me happy...and I just can't do it, and I don't feel like it. Sometimes I just want to be left to wallow in misery until I get over it.

Still, it is a sad state of the world that we have people like this. We could make someone's day by a nice compliment, and we can darken it by a nasty one. It is a shame that there are people who choose to make other people unhappy. Though I try to be a good person, when I encounter people like this--who are just so ugly--it makes me more determined to be a better person. It is like seeing an ugly dress on someone else that makes you decide to dress better.

bIGwIRE
03-20-2013, 01:09 AM
Troll - a dreadful ogre-like creature from Norse mythology. Avatars of chaos and desctruction, and associated with the end of the world. Almost universally female, and famed for their pronounced and varied sexual appetites.

As for why modern people troll, well, I guess some people get off on the anonymity of it all.

When I think of the word troll, especially when related to the act of internet trolling, I always think of the fishing application, when you pull a bait through the water at a slower speed to see what you can get to bite.

Is it malicious? Sometimes, but most often it reminds me of the part in At. Augustine's confessions when he stole the pears. I blame boredom more than anything. Others emotional reactions on the internet may satisfy that boredom, for awhile, like watching a fish flop around the bottom of the boat. If you respond, or bite, that's what you are, too, their plaything.

osho
03-20-2013, 03:05 AM
Probably we have all been guilty of unintentional trolling. I know I have, when I think about it. You are unhappy or stressed out, and then you read a comment that hits a nerve. Maybe you are up late at night, can't sleep--and you say something that if you thought about it more, you wouldn't have.

I only mind happy people (when I'm unhappy) when they try to make me happy. I know this sounds terrible, because that shouldn't be offensive. However, it stresses me out when people try to make me happy...and I just can't do it, and I don't feel like it. Sometimes I just want to be left to wallow in misery until I get over it.

Still, it is a sad state of the world that we have people like this. We could make someone's day by a nice compliment, and we can darken it by a nasty one. It is a shame that there are people who choose to make other people unhappy. Though I try to be a good person, when I encounter people like this--who are just so ugly--it makes me more determined to be a better person. It is like seeing an ugly dress on someone else that makes you decide to dress better.
You are true. In fact when people remain hemmed in some situations out of their control and want exits from their states they do something abnormally, or distortedly to have immediate relief. Everybody is capable of trolling under a typical circumstance. Humans’ capacities for tolerance have their own limitations. Nobody is totally good and nobody totally bad. In each of us the good and the bad do sit together side by side. When the good is awake and speaks the bad is silent and vice versa. That I often write comments that get somebody on his or her nerve does not mean it is my intention to infuriate the persons. It depends on the moods of the other persons I am commenting.

But there are other kinds who relish in mocking others and these sadist people are naturally trolling.

Adolescent09
03-20-2013, 04:33 AM
Am I the only one who has been using YouTube since 2005 and has yet to post a single comment on any video? People talk about South Park on Tchaikovsky audio clips, call Obama the devil on makeup tutorial videos, have philosophical discussion on Herodotus' Histories and Plato's Republic on Rebecca Black videos and have freestyle rap battles on The Beatle's 'Let it Be' video. As far as I am concerned, anyone who posts a comment on any video that has nothing to do with the video in question is a 'troll', which is practically 98% of all comments, hence I wish to take no part in such drivel. On ANY video on YouTube there is a MINIMUM of 5 people arguing over absolute tripe.

LitNetIsGreat
03-20-2013, 01:01 PM
Yes You Tube is particularly bad. I suppose it is difficult to moderate such a site effectively. It looks like they have introduced some sort of thumbs up, thumbs down thing where people vote on the comments as a way to try and self moderate. It's obviously not that successful though.

cafolini
03-20-2013, 02:09 PM
Not as successful as you could make it, eh? ROFLMAO!!

LitNetIsGreat
03-20-2013, 03:03 PM
Troll!

Delta40
03-20-2013, 07:11 PM
What does tranch mean?

Shaman_Raman
03-20-2013, 07:20 PM
I upload videos to Youtube. I do a variety of things. Of course, occasionally I get some nasty comments.

I never understood the type of psyche that feels the need to go around leaving nasty comments. If I don't like or agree with something, I just leave. However, since I've been putting up videos...what surprises me most of all are the videos that I'm likely to get nasty comments on. If I got them on my video game videos, I don't think I would be so surprised. However, the video that gets it the most is my tutorial on making homemade clay.

Of course, this is my most popular video--the only video of mine that has went past a thousand views. Perhaps it is its popularity that draws trolls to me.

Anybody else have their theories about trolls?


Silentmute, you should post the link to the video, I'm sure some intelligent lit users would have some positive remarks to make.

:hurray:

SilentMute
03-20-2013, 09:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGwu0y-dY1U&list=PLLdcCbWTBhkpdT5ftqt3bu7nbAgTDOeRM&index=5

I've changed the settings, though, so that I can moderate comments.

JuniperWoolf
03-23-2013, 02:16 AM
because the internet is anonymous. Put people's name beside their work and they become a different person.

Their character isn't changed due to anonymity, just the opposite. "Give a man a mask and he will show his true face."

cacian
03-23-2013, 05:06 AM
What does tranch mean?

Tranche from trancher means to cut sharply ie using a sharp object. it could also mean the interrupt sharply.
Or at least that is how I understand in French.

aliengirl
03-24-2013, 01:30 PM
Their character isn't changed due to anonymity, just the opposite. "Give a man a mask and he will show his true face."

Quite right! People indulge in trolling even on facebook where they may or may not have accounts in their original names.

I think jealousy is a big reason for trolling. When people see you talk about something they can't do themselves, they try to draw the attention away from your video/post to their own remarks.

Grit
03-24-2013, 01:42 PM
Let's put trolling back in context. Trolling is intentionally misleading or miscommunicating with someone over the internet. This isn't new by any standards, it's just become more widespread. Think back a few years and you'll remember prank calls. They were quite prominent for awhile, and are really no different than trolling. It's something mostly done by bored people looking for any form of excitement.

I've trolled before and I did it for fun. You'd be surprised how fun it actually is.

cacian
03-24-2013, 01:51 PM
Let's put trolling back in context. Trolling is intentionally misleading or miscommunicating with someone over the internet. This isn't new by any standards, it's just become more widespread. Think back a few years and you'll remember prank calls. They were quite prominent for awhile, and are really no different than trolling. It's something mostly done by bored people looking for any form of excitement.

I've trolled before and I did it for fun. You'd be surprised how fun it actually is.

whose fun it really though? the trolled or the troll? there is a big difference there. :)
Though here is my definition of a troll
it is like a big pair of pyjamas it neither fits the bed in which it lies on and it does not help the one who tries it for he or she does not have the zimmer frame. Is it the arms the legs the waste the length you name it where does one begin to size the unsizeable?. The onsee perhaps. I will keep that apart it is more like a cheapo get me dressed up for the night to tease myself silly.
So a troll is as hopeless as big bowl of charade badly standard and without a stick to stir whenever stooge is being thrown out.

Shaman_Raman
03-24-2013, 10:04 PM
whose fun it really though? the trolled or the troll? there is a big difference there. :)
Though here is my definition of a troll
it is like a big pair of pyjamas it neither fits the bed in which it lies on and it does not help the one who tries it for he or she does not have the zimmer frame. Is it the arms the legs the waste the length you name it where does one begin to size the unsizeable?. The onsee perhaps. I will keep that apart it is more like a cheapo get me dressed up for the night to tease myself silly.
So a troll is as hopeless as big bowl of charade badly standarded but without a stick to stir whenever stooge is being thrown out.


I can't think of a better example of a troll than this...

qimissung
03-24-2013, 11:02 PM
When I think of the word troll, especially when related to the act of internet trolling, I always think of the fishing application, when you pull a bait through the water at a slower speed to see what you can get to bite.

Is it malicious? Sometimes, but most often it reminds me of the part in At. Augustine's confessions when he stole the pears. I blame boredom more than anything. Others emotional reactions on the internet may satisfy that boredom, for awhile, like watching a fish flop around the bottom of the boat. If you respond, or bite, that's what you are, too, their plaything.

Excellent definition.

I used to respond to videos on youtube-always positively, of course-(:D)-but I never read them anymore. *shudders* Actually, the one's I was responding to usually had rather sweet comments. I usually just listen to music videos of songs I really like, and the other's listening also liked the music and were also commenting favorably. So it wasn't a bad experience, all told.