Hell Versus Heaven

[cacian]

I wondered if hell had a fight with Heaven who would you think win?
Understandably the competition involve people getting in one or the other.
Which would be most populated upon winning?

[cafolini]

The one who has Messi will win.

[cacian]

The one who has Messi will win.

LOL Messi as in Monsieur in french? Geronimo won't be happy.

[cafolini]

Lionel Messi is, according to record, by far the best soccer player in the world.

[cacian]

Messi is, according to record, by far the best soccer player in the world.

Messi Merci. cafolini I have yet to meet him but I believe you. Is he another Pele for he was according to people the god of football.

[cafolini]

No. Pele was good, but Messi beats all records by far. He was scouted and recruited when he was 13-years-old by Barcelona Futball Club. This Argentine Tangerine came from the lower divisions of Newels of Rosario, Santa Fe, Argentina. There are three players that have been the best prior to him: Di Stefano, Maradona, and Pele. But Messi overcame almost all records by far. Messi's nickname is La Pulga (the flea) because he's amazinly agil and small.

[cacian]

No. Pele was good, but Messi beats all records by far. He was scouted and recruited when he was 13-years-old by Barcelona Futball Club. This Argentine Tangerine came from the lower divisions of Newels of Rosario, Santa Fe, Argentina. There are three players that have been the best prior to him: Di Stefano, Maradona, and Pele. But Messi overcame almost all records by far. Messi's nickname is La Pulga (the flea) because he's amazinly agil and small.

Wow these faithful do not come very cheap I guess. It is interesting that is always from the south american side of the planet that good player walk out from. It must be in the blood.

[JCamilo]

Lionel Messi is, according to record, by far the best soccer player in the world.

True, when Pele wanted to make the perfect footballer, he made Messi from mud.

[cacian]

True, when Pele wanted to make the perfect footballer, he made Messi from mud.

WOw sounds like Adam and Yve in the making and god created Adam.

[tailor STATELY]

Heck vs. Gosh ? No contest... the war rages even now, and it is written...

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor STATELY

[cacian]

Heck vs. Gosh ? No contest... the war rages even now, and it is written...

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor STATELY

it is written? where?

[tailor STATELY]

it is written? where?

Many faith's speak of this battle. A link to one of many scriptures from my faith: http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/29.11?lang=eng#11 ;

and righteous men in this time preach upon these precepts as revealed to them.

I challenge others to add their favorite scripture references.

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle),
tailor STATELY

[stlukesguild]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8552490957_fa8eafd3b1_n.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8552490957_fa8eafd3b1_b.jpg)

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[cacian]

Great pics StLukes. Is the third supposed to Hell battle in colour as supposed to dark/black/white ish?
Also about the pictures I have to add:
Art looks so remote and yet so close. When one shines its armour and leaves out the garnet the remoteness of its images it projects in this instance makes one wonder what the point of it all is. If that is hell then earth is pretty much its sister copy. All we need now is to electric brushes us to make us still as art portray us falling off from our grace. No need to canvas paint just stand and watch as reality frames if you're really lucky you may just make it inside the frame that is.

[ftil]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8552490957_fa8eafd3b1_n.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8552490957_fa8eafd3b1_b.jpg)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8235/8553594250_bfa3715449_n.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8235/8553594250_bfa3715449_b.jpg)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8370/8553595696_0a1f807e6c_n.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8370/8553595696_0a1f807e6c_b.jpg)

St. Luke, I have noticed that you have a strange fascination with hell… Bruegel, Bosch. :reddevil:
Perhaps, you may like Franz von Stuck, Inferno.


http://franz_von_stuck.tripod.com/inferno.jpg

[cacian]

ftil it is impossible to see the picture it goes blank when you click on it.

[ftil]

ftil it is impossible to see the picture it goes blank when you click on it.

I have checked it out and it works on my computer.
Too bad that we can't post images any more.

[cacian]

I have checked it out and it works on my computer.
Too bad that we can't post images any more.

We can. StLukes can. We must ask him.

[osho]

Heaven and hell do not clash with each other, and they are wed locked and we are the results of it, the offshoots. You cannot find a single human of total hellishness nor of absolutely heavenliness. We have elements of both since most relationships start in heaven and wind up in hell.

Cacain, if they fight which one you side with if you will have to?

[cacian]

Heaven and hell do not clash with each other, and they are wed locked and we are the results of it, the offshoots. You cannot find a single human of total hellishness nor of absolutely heavenliness. We have elements of both since most relationships start in heaven and wind up in hell.

Cacain, if they fight which one you side with if you will have to?

Hi osho and nice to see you back.
If they fight I will chose neither. I will opt out because I am neutral. The reason for this is the following both sides you will find the one who won has more casualties then the one who lost and therefore it equalises itself.
So to recap that who have lost has less casualties then that who have won and so by order of logic neither have won or lost. It is an equaliser.
Now if there was no casualties then there are possibilities around it. In other words winning really is just a word and means nothing.

[ftil]

We can. StLukes can. We must ask him.

Well, we can post but only thumbnails. It is not the same as a quick posting of images from a web. I wouldn't want to waste my time for photobucket to post art here. It is just a forum and it should be fun not a hard work. But those who don’t know to do with their free time may not have problems. I would rather shut down computer…and virtual reality is gone. :lol:

[stlukesguild]

I have noticed that you have a strange fascination with hell… Bruegel, Bosch.

And I have noticed that you have a strange fascination with any post I make involving images. Some might call it "stalking". :p

[ftil]

I have noticed that you have a strange fascination with hell… Bruegel, Bosch.

And I have noticed that you have a strange fascination with any post I make involving images. Some might call it "stalking". :p

You don’t feel being flattered any more. :brow: You know very well that I love art as you do. You can’t do anything about that. I have been puzzled by your choice of art many times. That’s all. You may create your version of my motivations…if you have a burning desire to do so. :lol:

BTW, did you like Franz von Stuck’s Inferno?

[osho]

Heaven is there where you have no ego and attitudinal problems in human relationship. When you choose to cocoon yourself in a shell of your own imaginations and you succumb to quick tempers. And you are in hell

[cacian]

I have noticed that you have a strange fascination with hell… Bruegel, Bosch.

And I have noticed that you have a strange fascination with any post I make involving images. Some might call it "stalking". :p


stalking but isn't that following. Could followers and then in turns fans be called stalkers? The all derive the same goal and that is to k now. ;)
Although to stalk is to skulk someone else's ideas be default.

[cacian]

Heaven is there where you have no ego and attitudinal problems in human relationship. When you choose to cocoon yourself in a shell of your own imaginations and you succumb to quick tempers. And you are in hell

A temperous buddy. That reminds Shakespeare and the Tempest. Could that be a take on sin? The flood Noah Ark basically Genesis.

[ftil]

stalking but isn't that following. Could followers and then in turns fans be called stalkers? The all derive the same goal and that is to k now. ;)
Although to stalk is to skulk someone else's ideas be default.

You are so funny. It sounds that you like followers. It reminds me about New Age, “ we are all one”. No thanks no.…we got mind for a reason.

[cacian]

You are so funny. It sounds that you like followers. It reminds me about New Age, “ we are all one”. No thanks no.…we got mind for a reason.

Hi ftil how are you?
what 's that? how do you mean it sounds like I like followers.
I am only stretching the word stalker to its limits just to see what I can come up with.
It is not meant for you or against you. It is just thinking outloud. :)

[ftil]

Hi ftil how are you?
what 's that? how do you mean it sounds like I like followers.
I am only stretching the word stalker to its limits just to see what I can come up with.
It is not meant for you or against you. It is just thinking outloud. :)

It was funny that you were stretching the world stalker and you arrived at a follower. I know that it has nothing to do about me. I am the last person to be called a follower. I prefer nonconformist but some may call it rebel. Both are good. :lol:

[stlukesguild]

I have been puzzled by your choice of art many times. That’s all.

I would not expect less of you.

BTW, did you like Franz von Stuck’s Inferno?

I'm not a great fan of Von Stuck's work. It often strikes me as far too much "over the top"...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8560130301_f45e3b2ec8_n.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8560130301_f45e3b2ec8_b.jpg)

... yet lacking a contrasting formal/aesthetic "beauty" or sophistication. Painted at the same time as Manet, Degas, and Monet, Von Stuck comes off as "stuck".:rolleyes5:

[ftil]

I have been puzzled by your choice of art many times. That’s all.

I would not expect less of you.

A quite ambiguous answer. :wink5:



BTW, did you like Franz von Stuck’s Inferno?

I'm not a great fan of Von Stuck's work. It often strikes me as far too much "over the top"...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8560130301_f45e3b2ec8_n.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8560130301_f45e3b2ec8_b.jpg)

... yet lacking a contrasting formal/aesthetic "beauty" or sophistication. Painted at the same time as Manet, Degas, and Monet, Von Stuck comes off as "stuck".:rolleyes5:

I am not a fun of Stuck either. I was asking about the theme.

[cacian]

I have been puzzled by your choice of art many times. That’s all.

I would not expect less of you.

BTW, did you like Franz von Stuck’s Inferno?

I'm not a great fan of Von Stuck's work. It often strikes me as far too much "over the top"...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8560130301_f45e3b2ec8_n.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8560130301_f45e3b2ec8_b.jpg)

... yet lacking a contrasting formal/aesthetic "beauty" or sophistication. Painted at the same time as Manet, Degas, and Monet, Von Stuck comes off as "stuck".:rolleyes5:

I don't know I think I really like van stuck it is not so pretty like the others. It is very formatic figurative almost substantial it talks to you. I would say this particular has got 'balls'.

[stlukesguild]

I am not a fun of Stuck either. I was asking about the theme.

I don't really look to art on the basis of themes or subject matter... although certainly there are some subject matter that I like more than others. Rather, I look to art for the aesthetic merits of the work.

[ftil]

I am not a fun of Stuck either. I was asking about the theme.

I don't really look to art on the basis of themes or subject matter... although certainly there are some subject matter that I like more than others. Rather, I look to art for the aesthetic merits of the work.

I have noticed that there are some subjects that you like more than others. So obvious. :ihih:
I look at art for both reasons. I have found looking at themes quite intriguing and inspiring to do my research. As Napoleon said, “A picture is worth a thousand words” He was so bloody right. :lol:

[stlukesguild]

I have noticed that there are some subjects that you like more than others. So obvious.

Is that so? As an artist, like many artists, I tend to focus upon a single dominant subject matter, the nude.

As an art lover it seems my tastes are far more diverse. If I were to come up with a quick list of my 30 favorite artists (excluding anonymous figures such as those who designed various medieval cathedrals or the sculptors of Hindu temples...) the list might look something like this (with an absolute favorite work by each):

1. Michelangelo:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_libyan2-1.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/libyan2-1.jpg.html)

2. Peter Paul Rubens:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_rubens_susanna_fourmentsmall.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/rubens_susanna_fourmentsmall.jpg.html)

3. Rembrandt:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_sp1659.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/sp1659.jpg.html)

4. Pierre Bonnard:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8048/8377932475_30c7fc3200_m.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8048/8377932475_30c7fc3200_b.jpg)

5. Edgar Degas:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_Ballet_Dancers_in_Butterfly_Costumes_1880_zpsac 9808a0.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/Ballet_Dancers_in_Butterfly_Costumes_1880_zpsac980 8a0.jpg.html)

6. William Blake:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_Wise_And_Foolish_Virgins_WilliamBlakemed-1_zps480acfac.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/Wise_And_Foolish_Virgins_WilliamBlakemed-1_zps480acfac.jpg.html)

7. Veronese:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_Veronese_Persee-Andromede_Rennes400-1.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/Veronese_Persee-Andromede_Rennes400-1.jpg.html)

8. Giorgione:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_shepherd.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/shepherd.jpg.html)

9. Titian:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_noli-titian.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/noli-titian.jpg.html)

10. Raphael:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_raphael54-2.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/raphael54-2.jpg.html)

11. Bernini:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8238/8556298638_aa47024595_m.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8238/8556298638_aa47024595_b.jpg)

12. Giovanni Bellini:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_San-Zaccaria-Altarpiece.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/San-Zaccaria-Altarpiece.jpg.html)

13. Pieter Bruegel:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_proverbs-2_zpse2725f71.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/proverbs-2_zpse2725f71.jpg.html)

14. Turner:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_RainSteamandSpeed-TheGreatWesternRailway-2.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/RainSteamandSpeed-TheGreatWesternRailway-2.jpg.html)

15. Max Beckmann:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_135.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/135.jpg.html)

16. Matisse:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_matisse_rifain_assis-2.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/matisse_rifain_assis-2.jpg.html)

17. Fra Filippo Lippi:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_05adora.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/05adora.jpg.html)

18. Albrecht Durer:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_Durer_-_Knight-Death-and-the-Devil_zps06f0a0fe.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/Durer_-_Knight-Death-and-the-Devil_zps06f0a0fe.jpg.html)

19. Monet:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_wl-19062-1.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/wl-19062-1.jpg.html)

20. Van Gogh:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_goghwheat-rising-sun_zps8d1bb80e.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/goghwheat-rising-sun_zps8d1bb80e.jpg.html)

21. Vermeer:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_22pearl-1_zps6f690a7c.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/22pearl-1_zps6f690a7c.jpg.html)

22. Ingres:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_wgart_-art-i-ingres-15ingres-1_zps6af27884.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/wgart_-art-i-ingres-15ingres-1_zps6af27884.jpg.html)

23. Rogier van der Weyden:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_Weyden_St_Luke_Drawing_a_Portrait_of_the_Madonn a_undated.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/Weyden_St_Luke_Drawing_a_Portrait_of_the_Madonna_u ndated.jpg.html)

24. Utamaro:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_142_zps037210a5.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/142_zps037210a5.jpg.html)

25. Vuillard:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_vuillrd6_2_zps68e6681a.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/vuillrd6_2_zps68e6681a.jpg.html)

26. Gustav Klimt:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_T1h3pmXflsXXbxwLk1_041113_zps34e1640c.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/T1h3pmXflsXXbxwLk1_041113_zps34e1640c.jpg.html)

27. Joseph Cornell:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_dsm1_zps77d4f98f.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/dsm1_zps77d4f98f.jpg.html)

28. Paul Klee:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_Klee_BattleScene_zpsc7d94f95.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/Klee_BattleScene_zpsc7d94f95.jpg.html)

29. Modigliani:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_modigliani105-1_zps23ab9186.jpg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/modigliani105-1_zps23ab9186.jpg.html)

30. Diego Rivera:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/StlukesguildOhio/th_diegoriveracreationmexicocity1923_zps2b4f0128.j pg (http://s1245.beta.photobucket.com/user/StlukesguildOhio/media/diegoriveracreationmexicocity1923_zps2b4f0128.jpg. html)

Not certain I see an obvious obsession with any subject or theme.

[ftil]

Originally posted by stlukesguild

Is that so? As an artist, like many artists, I tend to focus upon a single dominant subject matter, the nude.

Well, speak for yourself. There are artists who focus on nude but there are many who don’t. :p

Human body is beautiful but posting mostly nude is boring …to tears. There is so much beauty that can uplift our souls.


Not certain I see an obvious obsession with any subject or theme.

It doesn’t stand considering the art you post on this forum. :lol: BTW, you have forgotten about Hieronymus Bosch as you wrote that he was your inspiration along with Pieter Bruegel.

[stlukesguild]

Well, speak for yourself. There are artists who focus on nude but there are many who don’t.

Human body is beautiful but posting mostly nude is boring …to tears. There is so much beauty that can uplift our souls.

I am speaking for myself. The dominant subject of my work is the nude. For others there are different subjects that are central. For Monet and Turner it is landscape. For Morandi and Chardin it is still life. For Van Dyck and Ingres it is portraiture. Even those artists who tackle a broader array of subject matter, ie. Picasso, Matisse, and Bonnard who paint still-life, landscape, the figure, and narrative painting... tend to focus upon a single formal element: light or color or pattern, etc...

[cafolini]

Well, speak for yourself. There are artists who focus on nude but there are many who don’t. :p

Human body is beautiful but posting mostly nude is boring …to tears. There is so much beauty that can uplift our souls.



It doesn’t stand considering the art you post on this forum. :lol: BTW, you have forgotten about Hieronymus Bosch as you wrote that he was your inspiration along with Pieter Bruegel.

You have got to be kidding. The person you are talking about is one of the best historians of art works on this forum. You should be glad to have his posts on this forum. If you were to seriously disagree with some statement he makes, it would be fine. But you are so obviously ignorant, it stinks.

[stlukesguild]

It doesn’t stand considering the art you post on this forum.

Just browsing through my blog on the forum I find that among the artists and artworks I posted are Pieter Bruegel, Giorgione, Renoir's La Loge, Matisse' Zora on the Terrace, abstract paintings by Philip Guston and Sean Scully, Van der Weyden's Deposition, Bosch' Garden of Earthly Delights, Aphrodite of Chios, Venus de Milo, Duccio's Adoration, and Rubens' Garden of Love. Again... it seems my choices are quite broad in terms of style and subject.

Of course I did post a lot of nudes with the thread begun in response to Kenneth Clark's book "The Nude" in which I looked at the development of the nude in Western art. But who is more obsessed? Me... or my stalker?

BTW, you have forgotten about Hieronymus Bosch...

I haven't forgotten Bosch at all. If I were to make a list of my 10 or 20 favorite paintings, Bosch's Garden of Earthly Delights as well as Botticelli's Primavera and Boucher's Mme. O'Murphy would all make that list. But I don't feel any of these artists has produced a body of work that I admire to the extent that I would place them among my top 20 or so.

[cacian]

I love it when threads turns into art. Images never seize to sizzle. Stlukes I praise for your knowledge. Imagine now if we only spoke with images art what would we look like?
Speaking of which how do you get to post pictures and we can't? ;)

[ftil]

You have got to be kidding. The person you are talking about is one of the best historians of art works on this forum. You should be glad to have his posts on this forum. If you were to seriously disagree with some statement he makes, it would be fine. But you are so obviously ignorant, it stinks.

Thanks for your honesty but I don’t take it seriously. Yes, St. Luke is the best art historian on this forum but world is much much bigger than this small forum. If it stinks for you…use some lavender. It may help to calm your nerves too. :lol:


Just browsing through my blog on the forum I find that among the artists and artworks I posted are Pieter Bruegel, Giorgione, Renoir's La Loge, Matisse' Zora on the Terrace, abstract paintings by Philip Guston and Sean Scully, Van der Weyden's Deposition, Bosch' Garden of Earthly Delights, Aphrodite of Chios, Venus de Milo, Duccio's Adoration, and Rubens' Garden of Love. Again... it seems my choices are quite broad in terms of style and subject.

It is not what I have noticed during 1,5 years. You know it very well as I addressed it a number of times. :smilewinkgrin:

BTW, it is good that you post art again. :smile5: A forum without art is extremely boring.....and I love to be inspired.

[cacian]

ftil what inspires you mostly about art? is it the way the images are laid or is it the ideas behind the arts?

[ftil]

ftil what inspires you mostly about art? is it the way the images are laid or is it the ideas behind the arts?

It depends whether I look at art for a pleasure, uplift my soul, or I do my research. But I don’t like talking about art. Words are useless as images speak out loud.

[cacian]

It depends whether I look at art for a pleasure, uplift my soul, or I do my research. But I don’t like talking about art. Words are useless as images speak out loud.

I agree talking about art is superficial compare to what it tells you when it looks at you. It is kind different and rather intuitive. No one really knows what one sees from one same image picture.:)
what would you say is your best painting ever?

[ftil]

I agree talking about art is superficial compare to what it tells you when it looks at you. It is kind different and rather intuitive. No one really knows what one sees from one same image picture.:)
what would you say is your best painting ever?

There are many paintings I love. But as I said, I don’t like talking about art. I also don’t have time for that kind of discussions. Talk to St. Luke as he is willing to talk about art. :wink5: