The other grimy side of civilization

[osho]

I have raised some issues on love, sex, prostitution, Gnostic materialism, bestiality under the theme Love is a Chain at times. Our friend ftl has shed light on some of the deeper and more layered side of it. Humanity, Civilization, Religion, Culture- sound aphoristically humanizing aspects. Few have hitherto dug up the brutalizing side of it. Civilization has been ugly at different epochs since there has been great many exploitations, atrocities in the name of civilization, culture. True literature must be out of this box and observe whether civilization both ancient or modern has harmed or benefited humanity in general.

I reserve judgment and want to open it for discussions

[cafolini]

I have raised some issues on love, sex, prostitution, Gnostic materialism, bestiality under the theme Love is a Chain at times. Our friend ftl has shed light on some of the deeper and more layered side of it. Humanity, Civilization, Religion, Culture- sound aphoristically humanizing aspects. Few have hitherto dug up the brutalizing side of it. Civilization has been ugly at different epochs since there has been great many exploitations, atrocities in the name of civilization, culture. True literature must be out of this box and observe whether civilization both ancient or modern has harmed or benefited humanity in general.

I reserve judgment and want to open it for discussions

It is a contradiction to discuss in those terms because the basis for the atrocities came from the imposition of humanity. Humil, humus, humilliated, etc. are all products of the imposition of humanity by force. The roots of humanity are already the atrocities.
One thing is to defend human rights as men evolve beyond humanity and another to propose humanity as a solution for the atrocities it founded.
Humanity has been overcome. Never again will it be aimed at. The Romans are finished and they will never come back. In God we trust.
You can reserve all the judgment you like. Put it in the atrocity piggybank. ROFLMAO!

[cacian]

It is a contradiction to discuss in those terms because the basis for the atrocities came from the imposition of humanity. Humil, humus, humilliated, etc. are all products of the imposition of humanity by force. The roots of humanity are already the atrocities.
One thing is to defend human rights as men evolve beyond humanity and another to propose humanity as a solution for the atrocities it founded.
Humanity has been overcome. Never again will it be aimed at. The Romans are finished and they will never come back. In God we trust.
You can reserve all the judgment you like. Put it in the atrocity piggybank. ROFLMAO!

cafo here is one for you the ROFL?!
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you may do with it as you wish.

[cafolini]

And the MAO? And the MAO?

[cacian]

And the MAO? And the MAO?

Ah this is a difficult one to find unless........unless we are talking MAYO with a Y which in this case I have this lol
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[islandclimber]

I have raised some issues on love, sex, prostitution, Gnostic materialism, bestiality under the theme Love is a Chain at times. Our friend ftl has shed light on some of the deeper and more layered side of it. Humanity, Civilization, Religion, Culture- sound aphoristically humanizing aspects. Few have hitherto dug up the brutalizing side of it. Civilization has been ugly at different epochs since there has been great many exploitations, atrocities in the name of civilization, culture. True literature must be out of this box and observe whether civilization both ancient or modern has harmed or benefited humanity in general.

I reserve judgment and want to open it for discussions

Few? Really? Most good literature of the past 100 years or more has dug quite deeply into the "brutalizing side of it." Postmodernism, for example, with writers such as Pynchon, Barth, Krasznahorkai, Markson, Gass, Ballard, DFW, Nadás, etc. spending much of their time circling such questions. What exactly have you been reading? The Oprah Book Club selections?

[cafolini]

Few? Really? Most good literature of the past 100 years or more has dug quite deeply into the "brutalizing side of it." Postmodernism, for example, with writers such as Pynchon, Barth, Krasznahorkai, Markson, Gass, Ballard, DFW, Nadás, etc. spending much of their time circling such questions. What exactly have you been reading? The Oprah Book Club selections?

Well, I wouldn't put down Oprah. She has been a great contributor as an actress as well as interviewer. But for the rest your point is well taken.

[ralfyman]

Currently, around 12-15 pct of the world's population are responsible for 60 to 80 pct of personal consumption, and generally a minority controls most resources. Over 60 pct earn only around two dollars daily, and most lack access to one or more basic needs.

[cacian]

Currently, around 12-15 pct of the world's population are responsible for 60 to 80 pct of personal consumption, and generally a minority controls most resources. Over 60 pct earn only around two dollars daily, and most lack access to one or more basic needs.

I guess the predictions are there will be more shops then sense. There will be shopping malls casinos and betting shops but no money to buy anything people will either be working long hours so no time to occupy shops or too rich to bother with malls. I could imagine the malls a derelict hollywood stacker of empty buildings.
The banking system will collapse because it would be rammed with empty bank accounts. The fraudulent account users to circulate money trafficking in between bank accounts is at its rife. An absolute atrocity.
I do not think the majority is aware of the seedy side of banking world system. The technology is flawed and open to abuse/corruption. The system is dubbed.
''whilst the cat sleeps the mice play''. Ah i love proverbs they are very revealing of their time.

[cacian]

Currently, around 12-15 pct of the world's population are responsible for 60 to 80 pct of personal consumption, and generally a minority controls most resources. Over 60 pct earn only around two dollars daily, and most lack access to one or more basic needs.

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