Metatextuality?

[qawe]

Dear all,

I know that a piece of drama that talks about itself is a metadrama.
A film that talks about itself is a metafilm.
But what about a metafilm that includes sections of metadrama?
Would it be correct to say that it contains several layers of metatextuality?
I looked up the definition of 'metatextuality', and, in light of this, the above sentence doesn't make much sense.
Any suggestions for me to articulate what I am trying to say?

Thanks.

[jayat]

Please, it'd be better if you told us what kind of work you are doing. No gossip, just to know the con-text. By saying "several layers of metatextuality" I understand you don't make the point, you see the problem but you hasn't yet developed properly.

Metatextuality, as far as I am concerned, is the critic relation that a text keeps, by criticising, condemning or emulating another one/s (Gérard Genette in "Palimpsests"). This is the kind of relation that, for instance, maintains Eneid with Odyssey. The later one is the story of a man who wanders unwilling around the Egean sea to reach, after a very long time, his home. Equally, Eneid is the story of a people who wanders through the Mediterranean sea after being getting away from Ilion (Troy) because of having lost the war and be the last survivours. Eneid (written centuries later) is me-ta-tex-tua-li-zing Odyssey, from IX B.C. Both narrative elements (Odysseus and trojan pepole) wanders without aim all along the sea.

Once explained all this drag, we can think about your question. Pay atention metatext is not metalanguage. When we use the language to talk about the language is metalanguage, neutral, just useful. the definition of 'lexicon' is the amount of words we keep in our mind. That is using the language to explain the language. Otherwise, metatext is meaningfully different. The relation is postive or negative. On the other hand, if something is inclusive can't be set in layers as you say. Better expressed it by using the metaphor of matrioskas or Russian dolls, or the literary resource the theatre into the theater (W. Shakespeare brilliantly worked in this resource.).

I don't give you an articulate work but I hope being useful to you to some extent with all that information.

P.S. Read G. Gennette, "Palimpsest", and the greatest playwright of all times, for God's sake.

[qawe]

Thanks. Can anyone else help? Would it be helpful for you to know the context?

[kelby_lake]

Metatextuality for me would be references to other texts, such as allusions and homages. I suppose films could be described as a 'text' of sorts.

I would just go for your description of metadrama. Alternatively you could have mise en abyme if it is a self-reflective work with many layers.

[qawe]

Metatextuality for me would be references to other texts, such as allusions and homages. I suppose films could be described as a 'text' of sorts.

I would just go for your description of metadrama. Alternatively you could have mise en abyme if it is a self-reflective work with many layers.

Thanks for that.
Did you mean 'self-reflexive'?

[kelby_lake]

Thanks for that.
Did you mean 'self-reflexive'?

Both I guess.