Addiction: The Truth

[cacian]

Is addiction as a result of consumerism or is it a deep psychological disorder?
The Media and people in general tend to blame the product itself such as food alcohol cigarette.
I think it is about low addiction thresholds. Temptations lead to addictions and pressure leads on further.
Teenage addictions is on the up and children too. Beauty pageant for young children is a type of an addiction that is passed on through parents to their toddlers.

What are your thoughts?

[osho]

Is addiction as a result of the consumerism or is it a deep psychological disorder?
The Media and people in general tend to blame the product itself such as food alcohol cigarette. Many people I feel tend to have a low resistance to anything they come across with and instead of taking control of it they go with it until it topples them and they become addicted.

What are your thoughts?


In other words I think there is no fault as such but what there is is a lack of self esteem understanding of one's identity and who one is and so this paves the way to vulnerability and so addiction is just the next step up.

Man is defenseless given a circumstance like from falling in love with a girl who exposes her exotic body to have a taste of something new. We cannot fortify ourselves against things that are in the air. Can we stop writing on the net? We are drugged with writing and drunk with doing things that can bemuse ourselves intellectually. The media is external and becomes catalytic when we spread our tongue for tasting something new, doing something not done and experiencing something new and exciting and thrilling

[free]

It is a kind of hunger for something else. A body expressing the thirst of mind for either some emotion or something else that the mind is longing for and is not capable to get. Usually the hunger of mind or its thirst is unconscious.

[cacian]

Hi osho I do not know whether I buy to this idea that a man is defenseless . I use to think that men were easy target and yes defenseless but after long thoughts this meant I had to conclude that men cannot help themselves. Such a conclusion I am not really sure about because it targets a man and stereotypes him. I think women are as much responsible and helpless as men.The only difference is that women get away with it and men do not.
I personally do not succumb to temptations easily. If I am with someone I feel right with then no matter what the situation is or the circumstances I tend to keep well away from whatever is on the menu temptation wise. I am not easily swayed. My feelings are my strengths.
I find writing a pleasurable addiction as long as it does not take over my life. The media however hypes and typifies addictions and encourage people to get the deep ends of anything out there that is luring and tempting.

[osho]

I personally do not succumb to temptations easily. If I am with someone I feel right with then no matter what the situation is or the circumstances I tend to keep well away from whatever is on the menu temptation wise. I am not easily swayed. My feelings are my strengths.


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Great! Not to be tempted to things spread on the plate. This is uncommon. bravo! Rare breed in nature. I am not mocking you Cacain, I am venting this thought based on my cultural uprising and that was what my parents taught me as a child - not to be easily and defenseless led into temptation.

[cafolini]

The media is the people. The media does not mold the people. The people molds the media. The media is an echo of the people through the greatest art, which is politics without tyranny, that is, democracy. That's the way it works in USA.

[cacian]

cafolini there is more to the media then meets the eye. Money is media and everything is well a montage of truth and lies.

[kaethe]

Supposing that addiction is desire-led, it seems obvious that we are all bound to be addicted in some way. We just substitute the dependence causing substance every now and then which might keep us sound enough to not be called junkies.
New media is just a comfortable, always available addition to the older drugs.

[osho]

The media is the people. The media does not mold the people. The people molds the media. The media is an echo of the people through the greatest art, which is politics without tyranny, that is, democracy. That's the way it works in USA.

It is the media and people both influencing one another. In fact the media immensely mold the way we live and today the media like the BBC the CNN, the mouthpieces of the US government mold our mode of thinking and in fact they manufacture our opinions and can get our consensus. Today more than ever before we are under the influence of the Media

[cacian]

Supposing that addiction is desire-led, it seems obvious that we are all bound to be addicted in some way. We just substitute the dependence causing substance every now and then which might keep us sound enough to not be called junkies.
New media is just a comfortable, always available addition to the older drugs.
Indeed. You said it ''old drugs''. One would worry when all drugs worn out. What next then?
Addiction is just another way of expressing something. One must look for it in order to let it go.

[kaethe]

Indeed. You said it ''old drugs''. One would worry when all drugs worn out. What next then?

Death?

[cacian]

Death?

Perhaps but that seems rather extreme and not addictive at all. I meant something else like this:exhaustion could well lead to regeneration. Many people experience it. Regeneration is the new addiction a nicer one I guess.

[kaethe]

Can regeneration itself be called an addiction? It might rather be the instrument you use to regenerate which causes a new dependence, or am I wrong?

[kaethe]

Perhaps but that seems rather extreme and not addictive at all. I meant something else like this:exhaustion could well lead to regeneration. Many people experience it. Regeneration is the new addiction a nicer one I guess.

I meant death (not suicide) as the final escape from all addictions.

[cacian]

I meant death (not suicide) as the final escape from all addictions.

Well no because death is pointless in the end because the mind is used to addiction. What one needs is to do is turn the addiction round but for a better thing like rejuvenation and regeneration. So when all drugs have run out of effect one must turn to a better thing like getting better by doing good things for oneself. That is worth a try. Death is in this context would anonymous.

[kaethe]

Well no because death is pointless in the end because the mind is used to addiction. What one needs is to do is turn the addiction round but for a better thing like rejuvenation and regeneration. So when all drugs have run out of effect one must turn to a better thing like getting better by doing good things for oneself. That is worth a try. Death is in this context would anonymous.

....but what is the aspired effect of a drug (not necessarily alkohol or chemical substances; rather excessive writing, reading, eating, running, working).... and how might it feel when all drugs have run out of effect? Why and how should this happen? I cannot get my mind round that.

And I didn´t understand the last sentence you wrote. Might be a language/translation problem. Could you please explain it to a poor non-native speaker?

[cacian]

....but what is the aspired effect of a drug (not necessarily alkohol or chemical substances; rather excessive writing, reading, eating, running, working).... and how might it feel when all drugs have run out of effect? Why and how should this happen? I cannot get my mind round that.
Well this a very good valid question. All drugs eventually run out of their effects. Like everything in life all things must come to an end and drug does too. So yes what then?


And I didn´t understand the last sentence you wrote. Might be a language/translation problem. Could you please explain it to a poor non-native speaker?

Hi keathe sorry about the last sentence there was a couple of words missing.
'' death in this context would be anonymous'' meaning it would not have much affect and will go unnoticed.

[Gladys]

It is a kind of hunger for something else. A body expressing the thirst of mind for either some emotion or something else that the mind is longing for and is not capable to get. Usually the hunger of mind or its thirst is unconscious.

Interestingly, I heard recently a neurologist researcher assert that the marshmallow test is a fair indicator of vulnerability to addiction, whether to drugs, pornography or computer games. If so, parenting skill or commitment is an important environmental factor in lumbering a child with life-long vulnerability to addiction.




The "marshmallow test" is an experiment which measures how much self-control a preschooler has - will they eat one enticing marshmallow now, or will they hold back and wait for the promised two?

[Buh4Bee]

Gladyns, I heard that report about the marshmallow test as well. It is a strong body of research that states that children who cannot delay gratification are more likely to fall into high risks groups such as becoming bullies in their teenage years. I was convinced by the research that people who can wait and control their need to gratify themselves will be more successful in life. But this isn't necessarily true for everyone, but a good indicator.

[cacian]

Interestingly, I heard recently a neurologist researcher assert that the marshmallow test is a fair indicator of vulnerability to addiction, whether to drugs, pornography or computer games. If so, parenting skill or commitment is an important environmental factor in lumbering a child with life-long vulnerability to addiction.




Hmm life could be quite addictive too. We tend to cling to it with our lives. Life is the biggest addiction there is. Anything else after is just a test of anything on offer.

[free]

Interestingly, I heard recently a neurologist researcher assert that the marshmallow test is a fair indicator of vulnerability to addiction, whether to drugs, pornography or computer games. If so, parenting skill or commitment is an important environmental factor in lumbering a child with life-long vulnerability to addiction.





Interesting test.


Gladyns, I heard that report about the marshmallow test as well. It is a strong body of research that states that children who cannot delay gratification are more likely to fall into high risks groups such as becoming bullies in their teenage years. I was convinced by the research that people who can wait and control their need to gratify themselves will be more successful in life. But this isn't necessarily true for everyone, but a good indicator.

With more experience we learn to wait for a better chance if promissed.

[jayat]

I recently gave up smoking. It's almost half a year I haven't smoked a cigarrette.I thought I couldn't give it up but at the end, after a month of brain pains, you realise your will is stronger than you. Enviroment (relationship, urban area you live in,...) plays a role but it's not determining.

[Calidore]

I recently gave up smoking. It's almost half a year I haven't smoked a cigarrette.I thought I couldn't give it up but at the end, after a month of brain pains, you realise your will is stronger than you. Enviroment (relationship, urban area you live in,...) plays a role but it's not determining.

Congratulations! Well done.

[jayat]

Thak you... Well, to be honest in this period of time I smoked three cigarrettes but going out on evening with friends. I am not the most stoical chap on earth but quite stubborn...definitely.