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cacian
11-27-2012, 06:59 AM
la vie en rose
it makes one bloats
a trumpet gloat
but truth be told
inside
the fort of
pink chiffons
there is nothing
that one can't sling
that does not
fling a curse of tinge
Emil Miller
11-27-2012, 09:05 AM
la vie en rose
it makes one bloats
a trumpet gloat
but truth be told
inside
the fort of
pink chiffons
there is nothing
that one can't sling
that does not
fling a curse of tinge
I've tried, I really have, but I cannot hold back any longer.
What the hell does ' fling a curse of tinge 'mean?
cacian
11-27-2012, 10:42 AM
Hello Emil and sorry about this.
''to fling'' means to throw like a flick but with force to aim at some thing.
A tinge is usually a light colour off another colour.
Like pink can have a tinge of light pink.
So ''to fling a curse of tinge'' means simply for every colour there is an off colour.
In other words no matter how dense/heavy something is or a colour in this case there is going a lighter version of it.
I hope this helps.
Charles Darnay
11-27-2012, 12:46 PM
When it comes to your poetry, I think one of two things need to happen.
1. You must hope your readers are always equipped with a dictionary.
or
2. You should strengthen your understanding that words have context and just because you can point to a dictionary definition of a word does not mean that word necessarily makes sense within every given context.
So while all the words in "to fling a curse of tinge" have meaning - the phrase does not.
hillwalker
11-27-2012, 01:34 PM
Hello Emil and sorry about this.
''to fling'' means to throw like a flick but with force to aim at some thing.
A tinge is usually a light colour off another colour.
Like pink can have a tinge of light pink.
So ''to fling a curse of tinge'' means simply for every colour there is an off colour.
In other words no matter how dense/heavy something is or a colour in this case there is going a lighter version of it.
I hope this helps.
Hardly. Based on this definition the word 'curse' must mean 'opposite' - which dictionary are you using?
H
cacian
11-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Hardly. Based on this definition the word 'curse' must mean 'opposite' - which dictionary are you using?
H
Le Petit Robert and of course the Oxford Dictionary.
cacian
11-27-2012, 01:54 PM
When it comes to your poetry, I think one of two things need to happen.
1. You must hope your readers are always equipped with a dictionary.
or
2. You should strengthen your understanding that words have context and just because you can point to a dictionary definition of a word does not mean that word necessarily makes sense within every given context.
So while all the words in "to fling a curse of tinge" have meaning - the phrase does not.
I see somehow it does make sense to me.
Maybe it is because I speak other languages and so the sense precede the meaning if that makes sense.
Charles Darnay
11-27-2012, 02:35 PM
I'll admit that I am not fluent in French, but I know enough to know that this line makes as little sense in French as it does in English.
You know what the lines mean because you wrote them. Unless your aim is to do so, you cannot write lines that you do not understand. But this means nothing if you cannot present your work in a way that your reader will understand it.
hillwalker
11-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Le Petit Robert and of course the Oxford Dictionary.
and how do they define the word 'curse'?
H
Emil Miller
11-27-2012, 03:45 PM
I see somehow it does make sense to me.
Maybe it is because I speak other languages and so the sense precede the meaning if that makes sense.
Well even if it did, what sense could be attached to your current signature i.e. :
pantheon
the lavish seon
is courtly
claws to gods
cacian
11-27-2012, 04:06 PM
and how do they define the word 'curse'?
H
I don't know I did not look it up to write this piece as I wrote it off the top of my head.
I define the word curse in this piece a as something that occurs over and over again and in this context its means the tinge that comes off a colour everytime a colour is presented.
Curse can mean other things depends on what the context is.
cacian
11-27-2012, 04:07 PM
Well even if it did, what sense could be attached to your current signature i.e. :
pantheon
the lavish seon
is courtly
claws to gods
of flaws
Well it is a play on words and it simply means the pantheon is a lavish trap to gods with flaws or gods that are not perfect. Claws representing danger or something like this.
hillwalker
11-27-2012, 04:17 PM
I wrote it off the top of my head. I define the word curse in this piece as something that occurs over and over again and in this context it means the tinge that comes off a colour everytime a colour is presented.
William S Burroughs lives.
H
Lokasenna
11-27-2012, 05:06 PM
I don't know I did not look it up to write this piece as I wrote it off the top of my head.
I applaud you for trying, Cacian - but this quotation sums up the main problem with a great deal of your poetry. It feels like it was written off the top of your head, with little thought or care. It's just words, vomitted on to a page.
I'm sure you could write much, much better poetry than this. A poem is a thing to be savoured as much in the construction as in the consumption. Take your time when writing, mull the ideas over, think carefully about what you want to say, and then put pen to paper; do not be afraid of rewriting or reworking bits of it. Though a lot of the great poets like to pretend that their masterpieces comes fully-formed into their heads in an instant, this is an affectation: you can be sure they've worked long and hard at in private beforehand!
cacian
11-28-2012, 11:26 AM
Lokasenna thank you for the advice.
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