“Discuss the relevance of Pastoral novels and poetry to Don Quijote.”

[loscuatrogatos]

Can anyone give me any advice as to how I should go about formulating an answer to this question?
I'm unsure of how to do it. I'm confused by the wording; 'discuss the relevance'....

[The Comedian]

"Relevance" means the importance, inclusion of, or significance. Sort of like sugar being "relevant" to the formation of a cookie. "Discuss" means to chat about, or as I assume in your homework topic, "write about". So then, now, all you have to do is put these two terms together. . . . write about how important or significant are pastoral novels and poetry to Don Quijote [sic]. There -- you should be all set now!

[loscuatrogatos]

"Relevance" means the importance, inclusion of, or significance. Sort of like sugar being "relevant" to the formation of a cookie. "Discuss" means to chat about, or as I assume in your homework topic, "write about". So then, now, all you have to do is put these two terms together. . . . write about how important or significant are pastoral novels and poetry to Don Quijote [sic]. There -- you should be all set now!

Thank you :)
I'm going to talk about 3 additional texts; La Galatea, Diana (Jorge de Montemayor) and reference pastoral aspects of As you like it. Do you think this is ok?

[Charles Darnay]

That should work out for you.

[kelby_lake]

As You Like It is basically a pastoral, so you've got nothing to worry about there.

[loscuatrogatos]

I am going to talk about:

-Locus Amoenus and the importance of location
-The continuous use of deception and disguise
-The lack of straight line narrative movement
-Love and courtley love

The texts I will address are: La Galatea, Diana, Diana Enamorada, *Pastoral poem* still need to find a suitable one.

Should this be ok?

[cacian]

Interesting topic the word pastoral.
I was looking into it and I wondered why is it is romanticised.
I thought pastoral bore a religious significance because of Jesus and the manger. Jesus being the shepherd.
Why romanticised though?
I also found this expression:
'animal husbandry' and I nearly spat out my tea. Sorry.

[kelby_lake]

Interesting topic the word pastoral.
I was looking into it and I wondered why is it is romanticised.
I thought pastoral bore a religious significance because of Jesus and the manger. Jesus being the shepherd.
Why romanticised though?
I also found this expression:
'animal husbandry' and I nearly spat out my tea. Sorry.

It goes back to the Ancient Greeks and the Golden Age.

[JBI]

You first made a topic asking for help. Then when you realized you had to do some work, you made a topic asking for someone to do the work for you. Maybe you can read the books and tell us what you think?

[loscuatrogatos]

You first made a topic asking for help. Then when you realized you had to do some work, you made a topic asking for someone to do the work for you. Maybe you can read the books and tell us what you think?

I've read the books. I'm not stupid, I've just never had to do anything like this before and I'm not sure where to start.

[cacian]

It goes back to the Ancient Greeks and the Golden Age.

I do not know enough about the Golden Age. It just seems odd that something that farmers do naturally to survive is suddenly turned into romance. I guess the real image one gets from a shepherd is hardship and ware ruggedness cold and hard work.
I find romance to mean something else.

[cacian]

I've read the books. I'm not stupid, I've just never had to do anything like this before and I'm not sure where to start.

This is a good place to start.
Ask as many questions as you like.
Bring or post pieces you do not understand here and will help you.
May I ask you whether you speak Spanish.
Your username is loscuatrosgatos. The four cats. Is that a book title?

[loscuatrogatos]

This is a good place to start.
Ask as many questions as you like.
Bring or post pieces you do not understand here and will help you.
May I ask you whether you speak Spanish.
Your username is loscuatrosgatos. The four cats. Is that a book title?

Yes, I'm a languages student :)
Los Cuatro Gatos is a restaurant in Barcelona xD

[JBI]

I do not know enough about the Golden Age. It just seems odd that something that farmers do naturally to survive is suddenly turned into romance. I guess the real image one gets from a shepherd is hardship and ware ruggedness cold and hard work.
I find romance to mean something else.
Basically you are leading and watching flocks of sheep in the warm Greek hills. The idea is that to amuse yourself, as much of your work is watching sheep, you pick up your shepherd's flute, and start playing. Then comes a woman who sees you, and you have a bit of a pastoral going on. That's the idea behind it anyway.

It seems highly plausible that ancient Greek shepherds would have primitive musical instruments. Likewise, if war and disease were not prevalent, this would be a self-sustaining sort of existence, rooted in simplicity and elegance.

In poetry then, the shepherd, and the purity of the shepherd, translate into the poet himself. And thus you have pretty much all the major Greek lyric poets. The same thing is also apparent in other traditions, such as the Chinese tradition (Su Shi being the prime example, as well as the classic Tao Yuanming), the English tradition (the English farm life has never faded as the English pastoral identity) and pretty much all our ideas of the Mediterranean countries.

[JCamilo]

Spanish pastoral, you may try Lope de Vaga La Arcadia.A lot of work there, plus Vega is the first harsh critic of Quixote.

[loscuatrogatos]

Spanish pastoral, you may try Lope de Vaga La Arcadia.A lot of work there, plus Vega is the first harsh critic of Quixote.

Thank you.