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Jassy Melson
11-08-2012, 03:00 PM
It happened at Austin Peay University in Tennessee. I had been invited by a friend of mine who was an English professor at the university to conduct a seminar on creative writing and then to give a reading of certain of my writings in the evening.

Around noon I went into the student lounge and got me a cup of coffee and sat at a small table next to a booth which was occupied by four students.

I couldn't help but overhear when my name was mentioned by one of the students. It seems they were having a discussion about me!

I felt weird sitting there, unrecognized by the students as they discussed my writing.

One young man with shoulder-length hair and a goatee seemed to be attacking my writing. I heard him say, “Have you read his story The Happy Demise of Hidy the Clown?”

Two of the students answered no, but a third—a tall thin girl with waist-length hair—answered “Yes. I think it's one of his best stories.”

The young man with the goatee replied in a disdainful manner: “How can you think it's a good story? He gives away what's going to happen halfway through the story.”

“That's just the point,” the girl replied. “He knew what he was doing when he more or less fired the cannon halfway through the story. What he did was work out the characters' reactions to the firing of the cannon.”

“I don't see that at all,” the student answered. “I think it was a major gaffe in the story. In general, I think he is overrated as a short story writer—and as a poet. He tends to give away everything halfway through the stories he writes. And his poetry is too didactic. The discerning reader is left with nothing, because he or she knows what the result will be—and as far as poetry goes, preaching is a cardinal sin”

“I disagree about his poetry,” the girl said. “It is true that he is somewhat didactic, but the didacticism in his poetry lends itself to the message he's trying to convey.”

I listened for a little while longer as the students dissected my fiction and poetry. I felt a strange sense of gloating as well as a tinge of what I can only describe as shame. Somehow it seemed shameful to me to listen to the students discussing my writing without their knowledge that I was right there next to them, listening to them without their knowing who I was. Mixed with this was a feeling of pride. If someone discusses your writing, it at least means you are somewhat famous—at least to a few.

I left the student center and walked to the Humanities building where I was due to conduct a seminar on creative writing.

I must admit I felt a sense of ironic humor when I noticed the four students whom I had sat next to in the student lounge walk into the room and their looks of recognition when they saw me. All four of them probably had noticed me sitting next to them in the student lounge. Their looks ranged from embarrassment to sardonic humor to a frown on the face of the young man with the goatee.

I began the creative writing seminar with a cheery “I'm sure I've seen some of you before. And at least one of you think I'm overrated as a writer.”

The audience chuckled. The young man with the goatee sank down in his seat.

So that's how and when I realized I was famous—at least to four people.

Charles Darnay
11-08-2012, 03:32 PM
I'm not sure what would be worse/sadder: if this is a true story, or if it isn't.

Jassy Melson
11-08-2012, 05:22 PM
I don't see sadness entering at all in this. I see irony.

Mutatis-Mutandis
11-08-2012, 06:57 PM
Please, explain the irony.

And, Charles, there's no way this is true.

Jack of Hearts
11-08-2012, 09:52 PM
Sad, sad, sad.









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Charles Darnay
11-08-2012, 09:56 PM
And, Charles, there's no way this is true.

that's what I thought, but I couldn't prove it, and didn't care enough to give it much thought.

miyako73
11-08-2012, 10:14 PM
To me this story is half real and half fantasy. That the OP wrote "The Happy Demise of Hidy the Clown" is true. The fantasy part spells M-E-G-A-L-O-M-A-N-I-A.

Jassy Melson
11-09-2012, 11:17 AM
Please, explain the irony.

And, Charles, there's no way this is true.

Part of the irony consists in the fact that I am sitting incognito next to a group of people who are discussing my writing.
You say there's no way this is true. How do you know it isn't true?


To me this story is half real and half fantasy. That the OP wrote "The Happy Demise of Hidy the Clown" is true. The fantasy part spells M-E-G-A-L-O-M-A-N-I-A.
What do you mean?

hillwalker
11-09-2012, 11:25 AM
I happen to think it's all true. No one else is pompous enough to write such a self-agrandizing piece of trivia.

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Jassy Melson
11-09-2012, 12:53 PM
What I actually did with this piece was make fun of myself. I simply don't understand the reactions this piece has elicted.

miyako73
11-09-2012, 12:55 PM
Even in community colleges, they invite known published writers in creative writing workshops. Why would strangers or college students discuss your "The Happy Demise of Hidy the Clown," a post in literature network forum? Just asking.

Jassy Melson
11-09-2012, 01:22 PM
They were discussing my story because it has been published in numerous publications, and the professor who invited me to conduct a seminar had included the story in his classes

miyako73
11-09-2012, 02:23 PM
That's what you said, Jassy. Can you direct me to the literary journal that published your story? I don't think your story has the quality that deserves to be talked about in a creative writing class or workshop. C'mon? Are you making me question too the quality of the school that invited you?

Jassy Melson
11-09-2012, 04:34 PM
There are two ways to reply to a post. One can be civil, courteous and polite, or one can be a jerk. I'm not going to take the time to name off the publications which have published my story for your benefit as if I have to prove it has been published in numerous publications to you. You can believe it or not. I don't care.

Volya
11-09-2012, 04:55 PM
What a pathetic answer...

Jassy Melson
11-09-2012, 05:52 PM
What a pathetic post.

miyako73
11-09-2012, 05:54 PM
Jassy, there is nothing worse than someone insulting everyone's intelligence.

Volya
11-09-2012, 06:14 PM
Care to link to at least ONE place where your story has been published?

Jassy Melson
11-09-2012, 06:19 PM
What gets me is that I posted a true experience of something that happened to me, and then most of the responses come on as if I've personally insulted the posters. No one seems to realize the fact that I have made fun of myself in the article. Most of the posters seem to think that I am blowing my own horn. That's not what the article is about at all. Most of the posters got their panties in a twist over nothing. I suggest to everyone that they reread the article--with an open mind. They will see that it's an ironic self-depreciating piece, nothing more or less.

I refuse to "prove" that my story has been published in various publications; so save your breath.

Volya
11-09-2012, 06:36 PM
I don't think it's offensive... But refusing to at least verify something you're claiming is true is downright silly.

hillwalker
11-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Perhaps the title lends itself to misinterpretation - that it's not an ironic anecdote about eavesdropping on literature students discussing your work but about the fact that you consider yourself 'famous'. You don't have to prove or disprove whether or not 'The Happy Demise of Hidy the Clown' ever made it into print. Most of us who tried to read it on here can already work out that answer for ourselves.

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Mutatis-Mutandis
11-09-2012, 08:21 PM
Part of the irony consists in the fact that I am sitting incognito next to a group of people who are discussing my writing.
You say there's no way this is true. How do you know it isn't true?

It could be true, but I don't believe it. I'll concede it's possible the story is published (even though with a Google search nothing came up but the post on LitNet), but Jassy just happening to be sitting next to group of students discussing the story in the most conventional terms imaginable? No. I don't believe that for a second. It's to perfect of a situation, and the dialogue contains no realistic elements--it reads like all of your writing.


There are two ways to reply to a post. One can be civil, courteous and polite, or one can be a jerk. I'm not going to take the time to name off the publications which have published my story for your benefit as if I have to prove it has been published in numerous publications to you. You can believe it or not. I don't care.

That's pretty lame, Jassy. No one would ask for a link to your published stories if you didn't CONSTANTLY mention that you're a published writer. Oh, but when asked for evidence you decide you don't have to brag anymore--I guess only when it's fun and convenient.


What gets me is that I posted a true experience of something that happened to me, and then most of the responses come on as if I've personally insulted the posters. No one seems to realize the fact that I have made fun of myself in the article. Most of the posters seem to think that I am blowing my own horn. That's not what the article is about at all. Most of the posters got their panties in a twist over nothing. I suggest to everyone that they reread the article--with an open mind. They will see that it's an ironic self-depreciating piece, nothing more or less.

Bull****. You posted a story about a group of readers talking about your own story. How can it get any more conceited than that? You even titled it "When I Realized I Was FAMOUS." It doesn't get much more conceited than that, whether you're being ironic and self-deprecating or not.

And aside from this story you're unwilling to acknowledge criticism and write off any negative opinions about your work. Anyone who finds flaws is wrong. No conceit there, no sir.

Jassy Melson
11-10-2012, 10:50 AM
To tell the truth, I couldn't care less what any of you think about the piece. Your opinion means nothing to me.

Volya
11-10-2012, 10:51 AM
Don't post then.

manuscript
11-10-2012, 11:08 AM
do u have the digits of tall thin girl? if so can you pls pvt msg it to me. thx

do u know i just talked to a PHD student who she told me she went to a class on something she had read. then everyone in the class was saying all this about how the book meant all these other complicated things. then what she told me is how she went i took the most literary interpretation possible i am not very smart. i didt understand straight away what it all meant so i just laughed and i was busy so i just pretended i was too busy to talk any more. because i think it is very important to be polite anyway and i could never tell someone that they arenot very smart.

Mutatis-Mutandis
11-10-2012, 03:48 PM
To tell the truth, I couldn't care less what any of you think about the piece. Your opinion means nothing to me.

Then kindly quit posting on the forum.

Scheherazade
11-10-2012, 10:29 PM
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