what is your ambition as a writer?

[cacian]

Where do you go from now or what are your plans?

My ambition is to write a book that transcends all eras.
In other word a book story that in a 100 years time still bounces off as modern and fitting to any era.
A book that never age.
It is hard but can be done. I am on it .

[krishna_lit]

Where do you go from now or what are your plans?

My ambition is to write a book that transcends all eras.
In other word a book story that in a 100 years time still bounces off as modern and fitting to any era.
A book that never age.
It is hard but can be done. I am on it .

Awesome spirit bro.... I too have a very identical goal.. My ambition as a writer is to have people (fans) that love me like I love my favourite authors, making me a part of their life...

And when you replied to my post "Why most of the Classic books often seem boring???" u said u haven't yet read a book that transcends all eras. I then wanted to ask you what that means, and in this post you made it clear to all.. Thank You... and All the very Best... I will wait for your book :)))

[Volya]

I'm just gonna point out that that's already been done cacian.

I don't really have any ambition as a writer, it's just fun writing stuff. Do you really need any other reason?

[Lokasenna]

It's a simple thing, but my ambition as a writer is that people should enjoy reading my stuff. Ideally, they should get as much pleasure from reading it as I get from writing it.

[cacian]

I'm just gonna point out that that's already been done cacian.

I don't really have any ambition as a writer, it's just fun writing stuff. Do you really need any other reason?

No no reason at all.
I think I am just looking to see if someone has something planned like overturning or overiding a classic by writing something classy instead.
Only joking.
Well it is nice to visualise your writing as if it is a series of books that do improve with time.
It is nice to know that you are getting better at your own writing without anyone telling you.
About what you said what is this book that has not and will not age? what is the title?

[namenlose]

About what you said what is this book that has not and will not age? what is the title?

I think that could be argued for any classic, no? Classics are in part books which have survived with the critical community and the interested public of literature as a whole, having so transcended their eras. Of course they have something of the time they were written in them, as any book must have, but they are not confined to it.

[cacian]

I think that could be argued for any classic, no? Classics are in part books which have survived with the critical community and the interested public of literature as a whole, having so transcended their eras. Of course they have something of the time they were written in them, as any book must have, but they are not confined to it.

Ah I see what you mean.
What I mean with a book that does not age is a book that fits in with all ages and interest. A book with no specific era or specific plot timeless is what I mean.

[hillwalker]

What I mean with a book that does not age is a book that fits in with all ages and interest. A book with no specific era or specific plot timeless is what I mean.

That's an impossibility. How can a child's book without a specific plot be of interest to say an adult 200 years from now? Perhaps an encyclopaedia will fit the bill, but no novel can ever be all things to all men. It's absurd to expect any different.

H

[cacian]

That's an impossibility. How can a child's book without a specific plot be of interest to say an adult 200 years from now? Perhaps an encyclopaedia will fit the bill, but no novel can ever be all things to all men. It's absurd to expect any different.

H

Well I don' know how one can do that but I am not one to believe the impossible is impossible.
I think if something is thought of than that in itself is a possibility.
I am guessing a story that is written around humour and magic with a set of characters of all ages is something for everyone.
You would be surprise how much adults have in common with children and vice versa.
I was thinking the other day of getting a group of characters ranging from 3 to 80 and getting a story written together.
Each of these people/characters will contribute an idea a dialogue and a pun.
The language is what brings these characters together.
Basically I am thinking writing a story with various people involved. A team book. I think one can do that with braisntorming and actually getting the story to take shape in real life and then putting it down onto paper after that.
A bit like a movie in reverse. Act out the story then write it down.
I don't know. Just ideas well worth trying.

[hillwalker]

Sounds horrific - writing by committee.

H

[Charles Darnay]

It's been done - the result was "The Vampire Diaries" - if you want to be saddled with the creation of that, go ahead.

[krishna_lit]

I am guessing a story that is written around humour and magic with a set of characters of all ages is something for everyone.. Harry Potter series is exactly this. That whole story is not confined to any particular time period. It has the potential to stay as a classic forever and ever. The last thing HARRY POTTER series teaches to readers is Magic, because it's mainly centered about the unending conflict of Good vs Evil and THAT will never be outdated. Moreoever, the newer the era gets the more that book fits into it...

[cacian]

krishna
Wizady is not magic to me.
I am after clean magic without the added gorryness/goofiness to it.
By magic I mean exquisite moments of laughter and fun.
No killing no flying no dragons.
I mean the kind of magic created between people. Just imagine of group of people exctatic just because they are together. The fluency of thoughts generated by a group of people as a result of their fluid thinking ways.
That is magic of another kind.

[krishna_lit]

krishna
Wizady is not magic to me.
I am after clean magic without the added gorryness/goofiness to it.
By magic I mean exquisite moments of laughter and fun.
No killing no flying and dragons.
I mean the kind of magic created between people. Just imagine of group of people exctatic just because they are together. The fluency of thoughts generated by a group of people as a result of their fluid thinking ways.
That is magic of another kind.

Cacian... I am a fanatical fan of Harry Potter series and that has resulted in that reply about magic, excuse me there.. I think I now get what you said, you're talking about the human relations, the Magic that binds the whole world together forever....!!! Awesome thoughts of yours.. That Magic will truly transcend all the eras, and stand as a True Classic...

[JasmineJNR]

Where do you go from now or what are your plans?

My ambition is to write a book that transcends all eras.
In other word a book story that in a 100 years time still bounces off as modern and fitting to any era.
A book that never age.
It is hard but can be done. I am on it .

I see that as possible if you create a world, like Middle Earth.

[cacian]

I see that as possible if you create a world, like Middle Earth.

Hi Jasmine Middle Earth sounds interesting.
What is it?

[Volya]

...

'what is Middle Earth'

...

[Lokasenna]

Hi Jasmine Middle Earth sounds interesting.
What is it?

***wails with despair***

[hillwalker]

A perfectly reasonable question deserves a perfectly reasonable answer - Middle Earth is the fictionalised setting for J R R Tolkien's 'Lord of the Rings' and 'The Hobbit'. Perhaps you have heard of them as they are quite popular.

H

[cacian]

***wails with despair***

Really I am surprised at your despair.
I don't know which is more desperate your for reading or me for not reading it.


A perfectly reasonable question deserves a perfectly reasonable answer - Middle Earth is the fictionalised setting for J R R Tolkien's 'Lord of the Rings' and 'The Hobbit'. Perhaps you have heard of them as they are quite popular.

H

Ah well we are not all read of JR Tolkien like you.
You see hillwalker a most intelligent post or answer from either of you should have been ''why have you not read Tolkien?''
Everyone hears of Tolkien not everyone reads his books.
Remember this a ''Classic' - a book which people praise and don't read.” ― Mark Twain
I think that just about says it all don't you think.

But since tact is lost on some there is no loss on my side and so I shall give my own question my answer and it is this:
I do not define books by popularity but by taste and choice. I go with the obscure if I have to but I will go with I see fit as read. I only read because I want to I do not read because others do.
If I do not know what Middle Earth is so be it. May be if Tolkien was less Tolkien I would have paid attention to his books.

[hillwalker]

My reply was intended as a polite reaction to the derision certain other members showed to your apparent lack of awareness regarding a popular book that has been widely read and features in a number of excellent films. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was criticising you for not having read it - and I didn't call it a classic, but by your own definition it probably qualifies.


But since tact is lost on some there is no loss on my side and so I shall give my own question my answer and it is this:
I do not define books by popularity but by taste and choice. I go with the obscure if I have to but I will go with I see fit as read. I only read because I want to I do not read because others do.
If I do not know what Middle Earth is so be it. May be if Tolkien was less Tolkien I would have paid attention to his books.

No response can possibly follow this.
To summarise : You don't like certain books or authors - Faulkner and Tolkien to name but two - though you actually admit to disliking most classic English literature either because it's difficult to read or boring or because other readers find it worth reading. It's a bit like asking other people what their favourite colour is then saying yours is red, so by definition anyone who chooses a different colour to red has dubious taste and is not worthy of your time or consideration. Your intolerance is as baffling as your poetry.

H

[cacian]

Tolkienism not yet a classic? Everything else is.
HP is soon to be surely.
hillwalker I do apologise if I misread you. It was not my intention to come across as brash.
I am totally aware but I am not in the where. I know about it but I chose not to get to know it.
My taste and choice are such that they take me where my knowledge is wanted. The rest I skip no need for weight when I can lighten up.
It is not that I dislike anything it is to do presumption that everyone is the same and must share the same views.
I find flaws in myself and in books that does not mean I failed or they have. It just means I get to learn from my mistakes and the books are not me. Whilst I can change they don't and so rather then blame I just ignore.
Books are a matter of choice and habit and so are people.

[Lokasenna]

Ah well we are not all read of JR Tolkien like you.
You see hillwalker a most intelligent post or answer from either of you should have been ''why have you not read Tolkien?''
Everyone hears of Tolkien not everyone reads his books.
Remember this a ''Classic' - a book which people praise and don't read.” ― Mark Twain
I think that just about says it all don't you think.

But since tact is lost on some there is no loss on my side and so I shall give my own question my answer and it is this:
I do not define books by popularity but by taste and choice. I go with the obscure if I have to but I will go with I see fit as read. I only read because I want to I do not read because others do.
If I do not know what Middle Earth is so be it. May be if Tolkien was less Tolkien I would have paid attention to his books.

The wail of despair was more a comment on me than on you - when I bang my usual drum of 'Tolkien was the most important 20th century writer', I'm used to getting disagreement but rarely do I find someone who hasn't engaged with his work at all.

For all that you suggest that everyone has heard of Tolkien but no one reads him, I feel I should point out that he is one of the bestselling authors of all time - The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings having sold some 250 million copies between them. If that isn't something indicative of mass appeal, just look at the excitement they continue to generate over half-a-century after their publication. That, surely, is the kind of quality you specified in your ambition.

As for the comment 'May be if Tolkien was less Tolkien I would have paid attention to his books', I think that says a lot about your prejudices, given that you have clearly made no effort to read his work and display a profound ignorance of the basics of it. It isn't necessary to like all classic literature, I certainly do not, but one has to at least make an attempt at reading something before deciding whether it is good or not.

Hill, I think, has the measure of it.

[xtianfriborg13]

That's an impossibility. How can a child's book without a specific plot be of interest to say an adult 200 years from now? Perhaps an encyclopaedia will fit the bill, but no novel can ever be all things to all men. It's absurd to expect any different.

H

I couldn't agree more.

[Jassy Melson]

What is my ambition as a writer? I want to leave something behind that is serious and good and will touch people and tries to find and communicate some meaning in an indifferent universe.

[manuscript]

i had a glowing dream once that i held a work of literature in my hand which i had composed.

[cacian]

i had a glowing dream once that i held a work of literature in my hand which i had composed.

nice.

[tonywalt]

I want to be more famous than Jessy Melson.

[Emil Miller]

Where do you go from now or what are your plans?

My ambition is to write a book that transcends all eras.
In other word a book story that in a 100 years time still bounces off as modern and fitting to any era.
A book that never age.
It is hard but can be done. I am on it .

Move over James Joyce.

[cacian]

Move over James Joyce.

:aureola:

[Delta40]

I want to be more famous than Jessy Melson.

I don't think any of us can compete with Hidy the Clown....

[Delta40]

I never read Tolkein either Cacian. I preferred his buddy C S Lewis and the Narnia Chronicles. OMG we have something in common.....

[cacian]

I never read Tolkein either Cacian. I preferred his buddy C S Lewis and the Narnia Chronicles. OMG we have something in common.....

I am sorry Delta40 did you think we had nothing in common at all?
My fault totally I agree that I do think different.

[cacian]

I don't think any of us can compete with Hidy the Clown....

:lol:

[Jassy Melson]

I also want to learn to write better so that I can write and post sarcastic snide remarks about other members' posts and work.

[manuscript]

I also want to learnr to write better so that I can write and post sarcastic snide remarks about other members' posts and work.

i get so angry when i see injustice. i dont know what is wrong with me to make me this way but i see red and its very dangerous. i just become very silently focused until you are asleep and then i cut off your hair and draw penises on your face. and there is always someone like me around, were everywhere, you cant escape us. so i would not pursue these plans of yours if you value your dignity because it will all inevitably come crumbling down around you.

[hillwalker]

I also want to learn to write better so that I can write and post sarcastic snide remarks about other members' posts and work.

At least your short story has achieved world-wide notoriety as one of the worst ever posted on here. They say there's no such thing as bad publicity.

H

[Delta40]

I also want to learn to write better so that I can write and post sarcastic snide remarks about other members' posts and work.


Now that is a bad example of writing. Keep it simple.

I would like to become a better writer so that I can post sarcastic remarks about other members work.

So I agree. You definitely need more practice before you could be considered qualified.

Why not critique members work for other reasons? Have you considered the benefits of doing this?

[TenderButtons]

Hmm. Well, my goals may be kind of lofty, but everyone else seems to have somewhat lofty goals, too.

I would like to start sending work out to journals and mags in the next few years.

[Emil Miller]

i get so angry when i see injustice. i dont know what is wrong with me to make me this way but i see red and its very dangerous. i just become very silently focused until you are asleep and then i cut off your hair and draw penises on your face. and there is always someone like me around, were everywhere, you cant escape us. so i would not pursue these plans of yours if you value your dignity because it will all inevitably come crumbling down around you.

That's better than cutting off his penis and drawing hairs on his face.

[Jassy Melson]

Is there any end to sarcasm and snide remarks on this thread?

[manuscript]

i do not know why i seem to have been the only person to have appreciated value in Jassy's writing, which i found amusing and good, containing interesting ideas about publishing media and amateur criticism. i do know that the fact that i am the only person to have perceived this value does not necessarily mean that i am wrong to have done so. i also know that i am a competent reader, because when i was studying literature at university, my instructors wrote remarks on my papers to the effect that i have a gift for analysis, and even called me on my phone to tell me specifically what a talented student i was. of course, none of that really matters; university is hardly "the real world".

however what really did surprise me was the willingness of forum members to shred not just his work, but his personality. you actually used his work as a weapon to attack his personality. why you still think this was acceptable is utterly beyond me. it is absolutely not acceptable, even if his writing had been as bad as you truly think it is, and even if what you said about his personality were true also. your mindless cruelty only reveals your incompetence to the tasks of criticism.

[cacian]

Is there any end to sarcasm and snide remarks on this thread?

Hi Jassy just ignore it.
I enjoyed reading your work so keep posting!

[miyako73]

Okay back to the topic. I just want to write three chapters a week, seven to nine pages per chapter. I don't care if I get published or not. The high in writing, for me, is when you finish it.

[hillwalker]

however what really did surprise me was the willingness of forum members to shred not just his work, but his personality.

Maybe because he continues to remind us that he is a 'professional writer' (by various unsubtle means) - published no less - and tries to impart his 'words of wisdom' on various threads as if he is the authority on how to write. Yet his writing skills are mediocre at best, he NEVER offers constructive criticism to aspiring writers who post their work on here, and the short stories he chooses to share with us are not what one would expect from a 'professional writer'.






Also his attitude sucks.

H

[manuscript]

i am a mannikin.

[hillwalker]

:wink5:

H

[Jassy Melson]

None of what you posted is true. As for my attitude, you were actually looking at yourself in the mirror.

[hillwalker]

None of what you posted is true. As for my attitude, you were actually looking at yourself in the mirror.

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?72173-When-I-Realized-I-Was-Famous&p=1183465&highlight=#post1183465 - disguising self-glorification as irony

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?71646-If-You-re-Going-to-Relate-a-Story-Tell-Don-t-Show&p=1176817&highlight=#post1176817 - a misguided view on how to write

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?70406-How-I-Write-a-Story&p=1170476&highlight=#post1170476 - a case of stating the bleeding obvious

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?70894-On-Sliding-Lanes-with-Friends&p=1165985&highlight=#post1165985 - a perfect example of how not to take meaningful criticism graciously

Need I go On?

H

[Anton Hermes]

I don't think any of us can compete with Hidy the Clown....

Two of the students answered no, but a third—a tall thin girl with waist-length hair—answered “Yes. I think it's one of his best stories.”

[Jassy Melson]

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?72173-When-I-Realized-I-Was-Famous&p=1183465&highlight=#post1183465 - disguising self-glorification as irony

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?71646-If-You-re-Going-to-Relate-a-Story-Tell-Don-t-Show&p=1176817&highlight=#post1176817 - a misguided view on how to write

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?70406-How-I-Write-a-Story&p=1170476&highlight=#post1170476 - a case of stating the bleeding obvious

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?70894-On-Sliding-Lanes-with-Friends&p=1165985&highlight=#post1165985 - a perfect example of how not to take meaningful criticism graciously

Need I go On?

H

Break the mirror

[cacian]

There is something in the air that says passion is in the fashion of writing.
I say writing is my ambition and all else is function.

[manuscript]

it has been a sad day for me. but also an interesting day. i have learned a great deal. i have had many more bitter lessons than those of today. so all in all it was a good day.

[cacian]

it has been a sad day for me. but also an interesting day. i have learned a great deal. i have had many more bitter lessons than those of today. so all in all it was a good day.

manuscript learning is ongoing when learning is fun.

[WolfLarsen]

To smash through everything that gets in the way of self-expression! Self-expression is everything! So smash smash smash away! Just do a Sherman's March through the literary world. That's exactly what's necessary! The literary world as we know it is a giant obstacle to self-expression.

Unfortunately, I can't say what my ambition is as a writer because it would probably get me banned. But I tell you one thing, the literary world is way too uptight! You know what the literary world needs! And you know what as a creative writer you need to do to it!

The same goes with the English language. The English language is nothing but a bunch of barbaric babble. There is little point in writing anything beautiful in English, because it is an ugly language. So write ugly! There's no point in obeying any grammatical rules in English in creative writing, because mutilating the English language will only improve it.

[Paulclem]

I've missed a treat. I shall come here more often.

It seems, Wolf, that you are saying the same thing you were saying some months ago. What comes after the smash up?

[cacian]

To smash through everything that gets in the way of self-expression! Self-expression is everything! So smash smash smash away! Just do a Sherman's March through the literary world. That's exactly what's necessary! The literary world as we know it is a giant obstacle to self-expression.

Unfortunately, I can't say what my ambition is as a writer because it would probably get me banned. But I tell you one thing, the literary world is way too uptight! You know what the literary world needs! And you know what as a creative writer you need to do to it!

The same goes with the English language. The English language is nothing but a bunch of barbaric babble. There is little point in writing anything beautiful in English, because it is an ugly language. So write ugly! There's no point in obeying any grammatical rules in English in creative writing, because mutilating the English language will only improve it.

Self expression? Is that the same as writing?
To write is to express to others and to yourself what you could not have otherwise.
Writing is talking outloud a language that is otherwise silent. Learning to listen to writing is another skill of its own. It grows in you the more you put thoughts into you to find out why you wrote the things you wrote in the way you wrote them.
Writing is a language that talks to you when you are ready to listen. Persevere and you will hear it. It is another soothing lullaby sang to you by you.

[xtianfriborg13]

I want to publish a great work of fiction worldwide! Dream big!