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cacian
10-05-2012, 04:53 AM
and Freudian Slip.

Could there be a link between the two?

'Oedipus Complex' by its definition is a complex/stigma not the norms , an attraction towards the same .
Freudian Slip is again the subconscious preceeding what could have been the norms.
A repression from something.
Both are conditions due a fault and kind of oppression or a lack of something that should have happened but did not.

kelby_lake
10-05-2012, 05:32 AM
Well, they're both Freudian and they're both to do with the subconscious, but I think the Freudian slip is just a colloquial term for a slip-up in speech that supposedly reveals what you were really thinking.

cacian
10-05-2012, 06:05 AM
Well, they're both Freudian and they're both to do with the subconscious, but I think the Freudian slip is just a colloquial term for a slip-up in speech that supposedly reveals what you were really thinking.

Hi kelby thank you for your post.
From what I gather oedipus complex is an intuition ie a subconscious feeling

the term Oedipus complex denotes the emotions and ideas that the mind keeps in the unconscious, via dynamic repression, that concentrate upon a child's desire to sexually possess his/her mother, and kill his/her father.[1][2] Sigmund Freud, who coined the term "Oedipus complex" believed that the Oedipus complex is a desire for the mother in both sexes (he believed that girls have a homosexual attraction towards their mother);
According to this definition it is rather saying it is more of a desire or emotional need to want to act against nature.
It reminds me of infanticide where it is an act that is rather not the norms.
I noticed the term 'homosexual' used here in reference to a girl. I was in the knowledge that the term homosexual only refers to men. Did they mean a transexual girl here?

My question is this: Is subconscious an intuition?

SkyCetacean
10-05-2012, 07:27 AM
Well according to Freudian psychology they could be related. The Oedipus (And Electra, though that's technically Jungian) Complexes exist in the subconscious, thus a Freudian slip, which is revealing of the subconscious (Not the precociousness, that is, it does not reveal what a person is secretly thinking to themselves) could conceivably reveal something about the Oedipus.

I won't pretend to be an expert on Freudian Psychology (Which has been thoroughly disproven anyway) but I think yeah, supposing the truth of Freudian Psychology, they could very well be.


I noticed the term 'homosexual' used here in reference to a girl. I was in the knowledge that the term homosexual only refers to men. Did they mean a transexual girl here?
Homosexual refers to anybody who is attracted to the same sex. (The gender-specific terms are "Gay" and "Lesbian") It's different from being Transsexual, in that Transsexuals are people whose psychological and emotional gender identity conflicts with their biological gender identity.

cacian
10-05-2012, 08:23 AM
Well according to Freudian psychology they could be related. The Oedipus (And Electra, though that's technically Jungian) Complexes exist in the subconscious, thus a Freudian slip, which is revealing of the subconscious. (Not the precociousness, that is, it does not reveal what a person is secretly thinking to themselves) could conceivably reveal something about the Oedipus.
Intriguing. What I am not understanding that the idea of this complex is due to sexual growth development.
I would have thought it is more to do with genes and how far related the people involved are, meaning in-breeding is an a contributing factor to this complexes and nothing to do with the Freudian slip.
Again I do not know enough about it as these pure speculations.

I won't pretend to be an expert on Freudian Psychology (Which has been thoroughly disproven anyway) but I think yeah, supposing the truth of Freudian Psychology, they could very well be.
I assumed that the freudian slip just means that we are thinking about something , not necessarily of a sexual nature, and so we say it outloud because our psychic/memory does not hod on to it for long.
We instinctively and eventually say what is on our mind.
For example if one has been thinking about their child they have not seen for a long time they might call their name whilst calling another child of theirs.
I think for me that is more a psychological slip which suggest memory recall.

Charles Darnay
10-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Intriguing. What I am not understanding that the idea of this complex is due to sexual growth development.
I would have thought it is more to do with genes and how far related the people involved are, meaning in-breeding is an a contributing factor to this complexes and nothing to do with the Freudian slip.
Again I do not know enough about it as these pure speculations.


The Oedipal Complex has nothing do with a one's biological make - it is just a way to explain why typically boys have a strong attachment to their mothers at a young age. According to Freud, boys through a developmental period in which they are fixated on their mothers - and may even display signs of sexual attraction despite the fact that they do not have the cognitive faculty to understand sexual attraction. "Normal" boys grow out of it. Some do not: these tend to be sexual deviants in later life - or psychotics like Norman Bates (see Hitchcock's Psycho).

The Electra Complex is the same thing, but for girls/fathers.