The Human Fixation with the Unreal

[cacian]

Humans across the centuries have demonstrated a real fixation with the sureal. Things are not attainable in real life or visible to the naked eye.

Unattainable as in gods and sacrifices, ghosts, afterlives, underworlds, mythical creatures, heights and flying, and the most recent ones are digging out pasts, shipwreacks and whatnot as well as aliens and space travels ie time lords and time travel.

One could simply observe such excess of the impossible rides rather puzzling and highly unachievable.
It feels like one is chasing speed when there is a clock to tell one to slow down. Make pace not haste
The point of this thread is to discuss how one can turn the wheel slightly back for there is so much to be had here amongsts the livings.
Knowledge is one and affection is another.

[Paulclem]

Humans across the centuries have demonstrated a real fixation with the sureal. Things are not attainable in real life or visible to the naked eye.

Unattainable as in gods and sacrifices, ghosts, afterlives, underworlds, mythical creatures, heights and flying, and the most recent ones are digging out pasts, shipwreacks and whatnot as well as aliens and space travels ie time lords and time travel.

One could simply observe such excess of the impossible rides rather puzzling and highly unachievable.
It feels like one is chasing speed when there is a clock to tell one to slow down. Make pace not haste
The point of this thread is to discuss how one can turn the wheel slightly back for there is so much to be had here amongsts the livings.
Knowledge is one and affection is another.

You seem to be taking it for granted that everyone will agree with your definition of unreal. Putting aside whether something is objectively real or not - which may very well be an interesting discussion - if someone believes in God or ghosts or reincarnation, then to merely lump this together as unreal seems itself unrealistic. There are other things too like myth and archaeology which may provide insights into the lives of others for historical purposes, which, whilst interesting in themselves, may also contribute to the knowledge about human development over the years. Often disciplines come together, as in environmental archaeology and history to give a better picture of the past. Don't you consider these things to be important?

[Alexander III]

Humans across the centuries have demonstrated a real fixation with the sureal. Things are not attainable in real life or visible to the naked eye.

Unattainable as in gods and sacrifices, ghosts, afterlives, underworlds, mythical creatures, heights and flying, and the most recent ones are digging out pasts, shipwreacks and whatnot as well as aliens and space travels ie time lords and time travel.

One could simply observe such excess of the impossible rides rather puzzling and highly unachievable.
It feels like one is chasing speed when there is a clock to tell one to slow down. Make pace not haste
The point of this thread is to discuss how one can turn the wheel slightly back for there is so much to be had here amongsts the livings.
Knowledge is one and affection is another.

FYI, We actually developed flying machines at the turn of the last century. Best to cross that off the list of "unreal".

[cacian]

QUOTE=Paulclem;1167858]You seem to be taking it for granted that everyone will agree with your definition of unreal. Putting aside whether something is objectively real or not - which may very well be an interesting discussion - if
You are right. I did not see it that way.
What I mean by unreal is something that is not seable nor touchable.



someone believes in God or ghosts or reincarnation, then to merely lump this together as unreal seems itself unrealistic.
I think believing in God which I myself do means to mean to say that God is not part of my reality here on earth.
God is in a different place a different reality from mine.

There are other things too like myth and archaeology which may provide insights into the lives of others for historical purposes, which, whilst interesting in themselves, may also contribute to the knowledge about human development over the years.
I do not see how myth can contribute to human advancement for it is merely a tale made up of supercreatures and fables ,something that I do not meet nor need in my everyday life
I do understand however acheology to be an interesting branch of knowledge and is a very useful science to have without a doubt.
Although I find the digging of human remain rather unsettling.


Often disciplines come together, as in environmental archaeology and history to give a better picture of the past. Don't you consider these things to be important?
I consider these important of course but I also consider human learning from each other and getting to know each other better most important too.

[Buh4Bee]

There is a strong connection between how mythology and archeology further our understanding of the development of the human race. When studying this subject matter, you begin to see the development of the human symbolic system and how we repesent and express our thoughts concretely in symbols and drawing. Just look to ancient Egypt, and prior to here, Babylon.

You may be interested in reading some of this professors work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell

[Paulclem]

I do not see how myth can contribute to human advancement for it is merely a tale made up of supercreatures and fables ,something that I do not meet nor need in my everyday life
I do understand however acheology to be an interesting branch of knowledge and is a very useful science to have without a doubt.
Although I find the digging of human remain rather unsettling.


I consider these important of course but I also consider human learning from each other and getting to know each other better most important too.

But myth is psychologically interesting - not for the tale itself perhaps, though it is an ancient way of making sense of the world, but it may well be a demonstration of how we develop our own myths. If we compare our account of our, or our family's life, we may well find that we don't agree with others about facts and interpretation. It may well be that there is an element of myth in all our self told tales. The person you thought of as the archetypal manipulator, may be regarded differently by others. Just a thought.

I also consider human learning from each other and getting to know each other better most important too

Me too. I don't see that the two are mutually exclusive.