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cacian
08-25-2012, 04:11 PM
I often wonder what life would be like if fear did not exist.

I think most of our fears stem from something we have seen heard or read.

This what I came across reading an article:
''to experience fear is to become fearless''
I think there is a lot of truth in this.
I feel that the more scares we loath ourselves with and the less sensitive we become to the point of where one goes out to seek fear and to the extreme.
The nature of fear is addictive just like any other addictive product.

And so I feel the opposite is true
''the less scares we experience and the more sensitive to each other and life we are''

a) so what scares you or what it the earliest scarce you have ever experienced?
b)what would life be like without fear?

The very first proper scare I have had was when I experienced earthquake. That is one scarce I will never forget.
I would imagine life to be peaceful if fears such as this did not exist.

Alexander III
08-25-2012, 09:41 PM
I often wonder what life would be like if fear did not exist.


I fear that in that scenario life would not exist. discuss.

cacian
08-26-2012, 07:50 AM
I fear that in that scenario life would not exist. discuss.

I am not sure I agree.
Fear is an earthquakes that shatters life building and humans.
I prefer to live a life not having to fear an earthquake.

RicMisc
08-26-2012, 08:45 AM
Fear is natural and a necessary thing. If people were fearless that might seem nice but in reality it would lead to a lot of people doing a lot of stupid things. People often decide not to do something because they're scared. Sometimes this fear is unjustified and the person should have gone through with whatever he or she was planning on doing, but a lot of the time fear keeps us from doing things that are harmful to us.

I remember the first time I was really really scared and that was during a nightmare which I can still remember. I was cycling home and when I arrived at the backgate of our garden someone all dressed in black came closer and closer while breathing raspy. I started yelling for my mother and suddenly she was on the other side of the gate but couldn't open it and the thing just came closer and closer. And when it was really near me I woke up.

Till this day I can feel how scared I was at the time. It is also the only dream/nightmare that has stayed with me for several years (I was really young). I personally think the nightmare was caused by me reading the third HP book (ft. the dementors).

Alexander III
08-26-2012, 09:29 AM
I am not sure I agree.
Fear is an earthquakes that shatters life building and humans.
I prefer to live a life not having to fear an earthquake.

Fear is the eyeballs of an eagle that no matter how far high it flies lets it never loose focus of the prey and predators on the ground. I like eagles and I like flying. An eagle can fly away from an earthquake, eagle beats earthquake.

cacian
08-26-2012, 03:25 PM
Fear is the eyeballs of an eagle that no matter how far high it flies lets it never loose focus of the prey and predators on the ground. I like eagles and I like flying. An eagle can fly away from an earthquake, eagle beats earthquake.

Why Sir you speak of eagles as thou you are one.
Eagles in fact have dwellings and when earthquackes occur these dwellings are shuttered thus leading eagles to disperse and loose with their point
of origin which affect their breeding and destroy their community. IT is a very distressing fear earthquackes for both humans and fauna.
It is the same with the Amazon the more destruction the more distraught the species and the more exctinct these lattest become.
Such is the fear of the element against nature as a whole.
An eagle might fly but it has nowhere to land because evertyhing around is destroyed.
Imagine that happening to you.

Alexander III
08-26-2012, 03:50 PM
Why Sir you speak of eagles as thou you are one.

You are right I am not an eagle, but then again, may I state that you are not an earthquake. The eagle like myself is a living and sentient being, while the earthquake is neither living nor sentient. So if we wish to stray upon this path, suffice it to say that I resemble more the eagle than you the earthquake, and thus have more right to speak upon the eagles behalf than you on the earthquakes.


Eagles in fact have dwellings and when earthquackes occur these dwellings are shuttered thus leading eagles to disperse and loose with their point
of origin which affect their breeding and destroy their community. IT is a very distressing fear earthquackes for both humans and fauna.

While you do make a valid point, I should point out that eagles are creatures of a laconic nature, they attach little value to all that does not rest upon their pinions, and like Ulysses they bear their sorrows with a calm countenance and never let material damages tear their heart. In that respect the eagle is superior to mankind. How few are the men who have ended their lives because their mother or their son or wife have died, most men carry on after such sorrow - but think how many are the men which when they enter into financial ruin take their lives so willingly and easily. A man may bear the loss of his loved ones, but not the loss of his social and financial position. The eagle is a far more noble creature than the man is this respect.


It is the same with the Amazon the more destruction the more distraught the species and the more exctinct these lattest become.


Eagles do not live in the amazon


Such is the fear of the element against nature as a whole.
An eagle might fly but it has nowhere to land because evertyhing around is destroyed.
Imagine that happening to you.

Ahh but you overestimate the earthquake and underestimate the eagle. The eagle is the emblem of zeus upon earth, while the earthquake is the force of Poseidon. While poseidon may be amongst the mightiest of the gods, no man nor deity would state that his power should surpass that of Zeus. That is why the eagle fears not the earthquake, for it a a force full of noise and destruction, but the soul of the eagle is so pure and noble like that of Zeus, that no external factor ,no matter how imposing, can harm it - the only thing which may harm it is it's own self. The eagle is the stoic, and not even the crumbling of a continent shall cause terror in a being which has no fear of death, but rather when death smiles at the eagle, the eagle looks upon his eyes and roars. That is why zeus chose this creature as his emblem, for it is the only creature upon earth which look upon Death as an equal.

cacian
08-26-2012, 04:19 PM
Haha Alexander I salute you for you vision and your eagerness to think that eagles are not less then majestic birds with no attachements or endearing feelings.
In fact I almost thought you were describing a gladiator.
I think you are very right to conclude that I am no earthquacke and that you are no eagle either.

I must point however that eagles are creatures of habits and pay great attention to their soul/sole partner, the one and only, whith whom they enjoy procreation comfort and companionship.
They are extremely territorial and establish dwelling according to the season.
Once they have established themselves, their lifelong companion and female counterpart, and their chosen habitat they become entirely dependent on these very basic elements.

An earthquackes destroys everything on its paths including all of these elements which strips these majestic from their livelyhood. Once the damage is done they birds go on to lose touch with their surroundings, themselves, and are unfit to start again.

Whilst we humans are able to fight on and start a new life these birds do not.
They have it all once and can lose it at the touch of a button.
They are unable to adapt to new everything because they have already mated and decided upon their partners. They are forever loyal to their mates unlike humans who are incapable of staying put.
Take their partners away and you have taken them out of the equation.

The difference is that birds get the one chance of a lifetime we get many chances.
One earthquack, one damage, one species out of the way. Fact.

That is what sets us apart from species and there lies the tragedies of our fauna. One must tread carefully and not presume species are like us or we are like them because we are not.
We get thousands of chances to start again a bit like that song
''I get knocked down but I get up again no one is going to keep me down''
Species only get the ONE.

Helga
08-26-2012, 04:29 PM
I don't fear natural disaster or things like that, we get earthquakes here,not often but it happens. I have never been truly scared when that happens. Fear I think often comes from something within.

Many people are afraid of heights, I wouldn't say I fear height but more falling down.

Fear is something I think everybody has on some level or of something but it is a choice if we want to try and conquer our fear. It is true that some seek it out, I mean there is a reason horror films are a big industry, many people love being scared.

But I don't know, I have never thought that much about it.

Buh4Bee
08-26-2012, 09:18 PM
All I can say is that you can't live your life in fear. Fear is similar to guilt as it can be a useless emotion.

Darcy88
08-26-2012, 09:54 PM
All I can say is that you can't live your life in fear. Fear is similar to guilt as it can be a useless emotion.

If people had no fear they'd go around doing reckless things. There is much to fear in this world. We often fear things we shouldn't fear, but to live life completely fearless would be unnatural.

Same goes with guilt. I don't know how you could call guilt a "useless" emotion. If you hurt someone you should feel guilty. If you don't feel guilt after hurting someone the name for such a person is sociopath.

cacian
08-27-2012, 05:19 AM
All I can say is that you can't live your life in fear. Fear is similar to guilt as it can be a useless emotion.

I agree totally.
Both fear and guilt are pointless in that they don't make life easy for anyone.
What may replace these motions is the ability to comprehend understand and then react and act.
I feel that understanding the fear gets actually rid of it.
If a child understands that fire is hear and flamme and it does damage the body then it diasable in that he or she are not able to do very much after like moving or running then the fear is conquered in a larger sense.
No knowing why is something fearfull makes the fear worse and does not get rid of it.
So to understand is to empower the mind. Knowledge is everything.
Whilst one is not able to get rid of the danger,not to confuse it with fear, one is able to see the logic behind the danger and learns to avoid it because it understands it.

richardshelton
08-31-2012, 07:04 AM
a distressing emotion aroused by impending danger, evil, pain, etc., whether the threat is real or imagined; the feeling or condition of being afraid.

Volya
08-31-2012, 11:07 AM
It's ok to be scared every now and then, and to fear things. However irrational fears are bad (in general), and even though its alright to show fear, you have to be able to act even if you are afraid. You can't let your fear of something control your life, you have to stand up to it.

cacian
08-31-2012, 11:56 AM
It's ok to be scared every now and then, and to fear things. However irrational fears are bad (in general), and even though its alright to show fear, you have to be able to act even if you are afraid. You can't let your fear of something control your life, you have to stand up to it.

I am not sure I can agree.
I feel it is never Ok to feel fear or be scared.
I think it is Ok to understand what might cause a fear and why we get scared but it is not right to expect to feel fear.
For example it is better to explain to a child what danger is where one might encounter it and then tell them how to avoid it is mile better then making up a scary story and let them run with it.
I know for example that trying to scare me makes mentally less able to fight it back because all I could think of is how scary it is.
We humans act on impulse and so when something scares us we tend panick and loose control.
We are not good at fighting fear with fear but we are very good at processing logic.
If you know talking to strangers is not a good idea then you know that you must not either respond or accept anything from someone in case they trick you.
Now you know that but they might not know that you do and so you are in a better postion then them.
The ability to read danger and act on it in a calm constructive way can help deter fear and make you feel safer because you understand what it is, the consequences, and how to avoid them.
ANd what you are not in the end is scared of people you do not know but what you have instead is a mental safety shield that should help cope with anyone without feeling you have to avoid everyone.

Volya
08-31-2012, 01:24 PM
I understand where you're coming from, and I agree that its good to explain to children dangers and problems, rather than just letting them be scared. But if you see something, or experience something that scares you, then it's ok. Or to clarify, there is nothing wrong with actually feeling fear, however, if somebody is deliberately going out of their way to cause fear, then that is something that needs to be dealt with.

cacian
08-31-2012, 03:33 PM
I understand where you're coming from, and I agree that its good to explain to children dangers and problems, rather than just letting them be scared. But if you see something, or experience something that scares you, then it's ok. Or to clarify, there is nothing wrong with actually feeling fear, however, if somebody is deliberately going out of their way to cause fear, then that is something that needs to be dealt with.

Well if you see something or experience something that scares then yes it is different.
Dealing with fear requires will and strength.
It is never right to be scared and even more so on your own.
We have all been scared but some put up and some don't.
Avoiding situations where fear might strike is one way.
Being aware of what might scare us is another.

Shevek
08-31-2012, 09:10 PM
Whilst we humans are able to fight on and start a new life these birds do not.
They have it all once and can lose it at the touch of a button.



Lose it at the touch of a button? This sounds a lot like humanity since 1945. Which is why, brace yourselves, I declare my choice to become a cockroach.