Joan of Arc?

[cacian]

real or fiction?
It seems that true history many 'saints' have had it harsh almost vendetted against because they had proclaimed to have had some kind of godly power.
Since she is the only famous female saint to have had made it in the movies a bit like gladiatory I am wondering now whether she is a work of fiction or reality.

[Charles Darnay]

She is real. Some details are not

[OrphanPip]

Joan definitely existed, and she did participate in battles (largely as a standard bearer, it is unlikely she even carried a weapon), and she claimed to receive instruction from saints, whether one believes she actually received instruction from God to save France from England is another matter.

[cacian]

Joan definitely existed, and she did participate in battles (largely as a standard bearer, it is unlikely she even carried a weapon), and she claimed to receive instruction from saints, whether one believes she actually received instruction from God to save France from England is another matter.

Interesting that she had to save France from England although it was the French who invaded England first.
It does not make sense.
Historically England has been invaded by every possible soul under the sun so I find it hard to believe it was the French who needed saving from the English.
Very puzzling. Must research it further.


She is real. Some details are not

Which details?
I am just looking at the name
Joan of Arc and the formation of it not very French to me.
Joan the feminin of John and is archaic English.
I looked in this list for French names and Joan is not there
http://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/french/2
French surnames tend to refer to places and jobs or postion
http://genealogy.about.com/cs/surname/a/french_surnames.htm

Arc is word describing an object and does not relate to surnames.
Arc is also archaic for Arch and has often religious connotations.
The two combined together do not make a very French name.

[OrphanPip]

Joan is an anglosization, her name was Jeanne.

Edit: Arc was likely a vaguely aristocratic sounding last name that was made up after the fact. Surviving documents are signed simply as Jehanne, an archaic spelling of the French name Jeanne.

[cacian]

Joan is an anglosization, her name was Jeanne.

Edit: Arc was likely a vaguely aristocratic sounding last name that was made up after the fact. Surviving signatures and documents are signed simply as Jehanne, an archaic spelling of the French name Jeanne.

Jehanne sounds arabic.
I know arabic and this is very much arabic because the H after the JE.
Think of the word
JEHAD. It is an arabic words means religious war in the name of god.
Notice the beginning of both Jehanne and Jehad.
This type of spelling of the H in the middle of a word only happens in arabic.

I am a native French speaker and I know that Jeanne comes Joanna which finds its roots in hebrew.

[OrphanPip]

Jehanne sounds arabic.
I know arabic and this is very much arabic because the H after the JE.

No, it's just an alternative spelling of the common French name, Jeanne.