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Kyriakos
05-11-2012, 01:44 PM
What are the prerequisites that should be met so that one may be frightened by a piece of art?
Fear is, as is known, one of the most powerfull emotions. An emotion which has effects both somatic (one can sweat, lose one's breath, be hypersensitive and so on) and psychological. But are there any parameters which have to be set in order for one to feel this emotion towards something which is understood as a piece of art?

Moreover, can something frighten IF it is primarily seen as art? Or does one have to view it as distanced from fiction, as part of reality, so as to experience the general alarm that is fear?

I recall first reading HP Lovecraft when i was 17, and feeling uneasy after a few pages. Granted the phenomenon soon wore off, and have never felt afraid of it since, however it was very real the time i experienced it, so much so that it instantly made me want to produce writing, and have the effect on readers which amounts to strong emotion.
Even before that, though, i was frightened by bits and pieces of information which was channeled through artistic means.

For example i remember vivibly one afternoon when i was in the middle of elementary school. It probably was my birthday, or some occasion on which i was given a present, since i returned to my room with a copy of the illustrated Odyssey.
I was turning the pages and looking at the images, without any care, until i happened to see something that horrified me. It was the likeness of the Cyclops Polyphemos.

Now one might claim that for a small child the horrible image of a monster would be sufficient to cause a scare. But the thing is that this is a very general statement. As a writer i am interested in the particular ways in which one constructs a web of language that acts as a trap for emotions, or has the analogous effect on one's psyche that a march of soldiers can have on a bridge: it may cause it to pulsate and even collapse...

I have thought of why i was scared by that image of Polyphemos. He was a one-eyed man, and having one-eye symbolically meant that he was blind to half of reality, or half of experience. Now that it acted symbolically on me was not something i was aware of in that age, but it did not matter, since in deeper strata of my mind those connections were very existent.
A one-eyed being can symbolize many things, from idiocy ("half-witted" has a parallelism to half-eyed, or one-eyed) to extreme focus on part of the image (introversion or extroversion), to violence (it is argued that people who are very violent are so out of some sort of atrophy of part of their consciousness; this metaphorically is an atrophy of the eye that glances at that mental characteristics, and total atrophy would be equated with dissappearence of the one eye).

So, in conclusion, and in anticipation of discussion if it happens, i can say that i think that it is very positive for one to feel frightened by art, since it shows they have not forcibly closed the corridors of the mind in which such connections become sensed. Of course it is a problem if one does not go beyond the original fear, into examination of it, but if one does then surely there is a wealth of thoughts to be found in this field as well.

And i leave you with a nice painting of a Cyclops (what else? ;) )

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Redon.cyclops.jpg/220px-Redon.cyclops.jpg

Dark Muse
05-13-2012, 03:58 PM
For me, for a piece of art to be frightening, it usually involves taking something mundane, normal, natural and than twisting it around into the grotesque and making it appear abnormal in some way.

I love surrealism, but I also do often find that certain pieces of surrealism can really freak me out and I do find to be quite frightening.

The works of Salvador Doli for example I find quite horrifying. Particularly I get heebe jebebies from the depictions of his elephant like creatures, that have really long spindly legs.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KTNVrrzJq10/TeJEnMVCvyI/AAAAAAAAEl8/0VLLOXUPIng/s1600/Dali-Elephants.jpg

RetsixArp
05-13-2012, 08:33 PM
There is a great book by a guy named Wolfgang Kayser, The Grotesque in Art and Literature. One fellow who did especially scary work was a Belgian named James Ensor: his human & semi-human figures always appear to be wearing masks (The Intrigue, The Rumor).

Kyriakos
05-14-2012, 06:59 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KTNVrrzJq10/TeJEnMVCvyI/AAAAAAAAEl8/0VLLOXUPIng/s1600/Dali-Elephants.jpg

Very interesting painting, i think it partly means that the two people trying to meet have their hidden worlds (symbolized by the elephant-like creatures) which will collide as well...

Thank you for that info Retsixarp :)

loe
05-14-2012, 07:55 AM
Taking a look at Giger paintings makes me always feeling a bit uneasy.
But I cannot really say, why it is so... (because of this evil slimy alien look?)

Generally I think, that different subjects scare different people.

Concerning this thread I have to think of Alfred Kubin's book The Other Side (Sorry, I'm actually not sure about the correct English title). Kubin was a great artist himself who created rather frightening drawing ink paintings. And reading his book generates the same awkward feelings.

Mutatis-Mutandis
05-14-2012, 09:26 AM
Here are some paintings that put me ill at ease. Coincidentally, they are also my favorites.

Caravaggio

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Caravaggio_-_Martirio_di_San_Pietro.jpg/250px-Caravaggio_-_Martirio_di_San_Pietro.jpg

http://www.phaidon.com/resource/doubtingthomas.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Caravaggio_-_La_Deposizione_di_Cristo.jpg/300px-Caravaggio_-_La_Deposizione_di_Cristo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Caravaggio_-_David_con_la_testa_di_Golia.jpg/300px-Caravaggio_-_David_con_la_testa_di_Golia.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N8HsxkfO_Ss/Tx0ROMdxE1I/AAAAAAAAAQw/yg7Sl_eleas/s1600/Conversion+St+Paul.jpg

http://static.artbible.info/large/judith.jpg

Goya

http://www.mezzo-mondo.com/arts/mm/goya/GOF007_L.jpg

http://www.francisco-goya.net/images/goya-the-colossus.jpg

http://www.shanegarton.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Goya_y_Lucientes_Francisco_de-Black_Paintings_Two_Old_Men_Eating_Soup_560.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-syA2xZtebz0/T4ComaYHE0I/AAAAAAAAA0Q/4PNok14pasI/s640/goy.jpg

Dali

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Salvador-Dali-modern-art-313546_550_403.jpg

http://www.oilpaintinghk.com/paintingpic/080715/Salvador-Dali-the-face-of-war.jpg

http://spainartists.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/0/2/2302519/5044776.bmp

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/staticrec/Dali-AutumnCannibalism1936.jpg

Beksinski

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lc2sc0HSuY1qexeeio1_500.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xAkK3rEICYE/T0U8O4NjmtI/AAAAAAAAB4c/3ibgCJIEwo8/s1600/zdzislaw_beksinski_1983.jpeg

http://thewitcontinuum.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/zdzislaw_beksinski_1974_2.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__f6t5llJvaM/TJ09h_bYIaI/AAAAAAAAASE/kEikc2VTeUU/s1600/zdzislawbeksinski.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2130244122_f7af8d7098_o.jpg

Delta40
05-14-2012, 09:53 AM
Wow I really love the Beksinski pics MM - especially the last one!

Mutatis-Mutandis
05-14-2012, 10:02 AM
He was an amazing artist. Searching his paintings can be a real pain, though, since he never gave any of them titles.

Dark Muse
05-14-2012, 01:43 PM
I remember as a kid, when I was in elementary school, I cannot remember exactly what age, we went on this family trip where we visited all (or at least most) of the Missions in the California, it was also part of this school project of mine. And I recall I was horrified by the Crucifixes in them, and I was always inclined to be a little morbid, so there was a mix of fascination in it, but they also really freaked me out. Some of them were just so life like and realistic, and really gruesome looking. Whenever we visited a new mission I always kind of dreaded the seeing the crucifix.

Samsa
05-22-2012, 11:30 AM
When I was a child someone gave my parents a print of Picasso's 'The Old Guitarist'.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wUii7onE6j8/TcExsuFAMiI/AAAAAAAAGSE/j3o1XHwFlks/s1600/picasso_old_man_playing_guitar.jpg

They put it on the wall but had to get rid of it after a few weeks because I refused to be alone in the room with it. I can't explain why I was so afraid of it, I just thought it was very sinister.

DocHeart
05-22-2012, 02:37 PM
What are the prerequisites that should be met so that one may be frightened by a piece of art?
Fear is, as is known, one of the most powerfull emotions. An emotion which has effects both somatic (one can sweat, lose one's breath, be hypersensitive and so on) and psychological. But are there any parameters which have to be set in order for one to feel this emotion towards something which is understood as a piece of art?



It is only rarely that a psychoanalyst feels impelled to in- vestigate the subject of aesthetics even when aesthetics is understood to mean not merely the theory of beauty, but the theory of the qualities of feeling. He works in other planes of mental life and has little to do with those sub- dued emotional activities which, inhibited in their aims and dependent upon a multitude of concurrent factors, usually furnish the material for the study of aesthetics. But it does occasionally happen that he has to interest himself in some particular province of that subject; and then it usu- ally proves to be a rather remote region of it and one that has been neglected in standard works.

The subject of the “uncanny” is a province of this kind. It undoubtedly belongs to all that is terrible—to all that arouses dread and creeping horror; it is equally certain, too, that the word is not always used in a clearly definable sense, so that it tends to coincide with whatever excites dread. Yet we may expect that it implies some intrinsic quality which justifies the use of a special name. One is curious to know what this peculiar quality is which allows us to distinguish as “uncanny” certain things within the boundaries of what is “fearful.”



I believe you might find the rest of Freud's "The Uncanny" interesting, Kyriako!


Here it is. (http://www.google.gr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=freud%20the%20uncanny&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CHIQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.mit.edu%2Fallanmc%2Fwww%2Ffre ud1.pdf&ei=l9i7T8eFGYeS8gOk8qSxCg&usg=AFQjCNHTmYQj-3dLZjqAPlkQ90dBgUQUKw&cad=rja)

Regards