need help again *_^

[afnan]

hey everyone, I need help from those who read Great expectations

I need a long analysis in joe character in the novel in an essay form .

like when he was young his father abuse him till the end of the novel

he is kind because he treats pip in good way etc
:seeya: waiting you

[KCurtis]

are you kidding? DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK.

[Charles Darnay]

See this is what happens when you help people :)

[afnan]

why not it is easy for you
but its very hard for me because I am not good in writing + English is my second language
and I want to be good in something, without your help I cant do it T_T

[Charles Darnay]

And that's all well and good, but the help you are asking for will not make you better at writing/reading/analyzing.

Present the ideas you have already and generate some discussion - asking for someone to write an essay for you is not help, in any sense.

[OrphanPip]

It's also cheating.

I might add, I do enjoy reading threads about Great Expectations, because it lets me imagine everyone is talking about me. Although, people say such mean things :(.

[Calidore]

Write what you can as best you can, and ask another student, preferably one you find hot, to help clean it up.

[JuniperWoolf]

I might add, I do enjoy reading threads about Great Expectations, because it lets me imagine everyone is talking about me.

Haha, it fooled me for a second just yesterday. There was a thread "Why did Pip fall in love..." and I was like "Awww, really?" and then the thread was like "with Estella" and I was like "...no, that's not right. Oh, wait... nevermind."

:dupe:

[afnan]

thanxx all for ur advices , I will try to do it but I have this feeling that always told me to relax and have fun at the end we all gonna be died . hhhhh

[Calidore]

Really, the best person to bring your troubles up to is your professor. That's where the best advice will come from.

[KCurtis]

It's also cheating.

I might add, I do enjoy reading threads about Great Expectations, because it lets me imagine everyone is talking about me. Although, people say such mean things :(.

:rofl: That's funny.

[tonywalt]

hey everyone, I need help from those who read Great expectations

I need a long analysis in joe character in the novel in an essay form .

like when he was young his father abuse him till the end of the novel

he is kind because he treats pip in good way etc
:seeya: waiting you

Did you read the book? Honestly?

I see these "need help fast!!" postings and think most if not all, have not picked up the vast content of summaries and analysis on the internet, much less reading the book.

[afnan]

yes just few chapters I can't finish it cuz its really a long novel .

do not misjudge me you may surprise of the info that I have. calidore for your info
my professor appreciate and respect me. I may love to have fun but I do some good things too.

[symphony]

yes just few chapters I can't finish it cuz its really a long novel .

do not misjudge me you may surprise of the info that I have. calidore for your info
my professor appreciate and respect me. I may love to have fun but I do some good things too.

Finish reading the book first, for a change. I myself used to experience an involuntary repulsion from literature whenever it became textbook material. But trust me, you'll be amazed at what you find. All those guides and summaries and ready-made answers can't ever give you what you yourself can make of a novel you enjoyed reading, and chance is that that's what your professor's looking for (unless you are in a stupid curriculum like mine was, one which didn't appreciate unorthodox answers).

[tonywalt]

yes just few chapters I can't finish it cuz its really a long novel .

do not misjudge me you may surprise of the info that I have. calidore for your info
my professor appreciate and respect me. I may love to have fun but I do some good things too.

The problem with the above is that you are not going to read any books, as they all relatively "really...long.." and therefore will never learn about literature.

By helping we just reinforce the behaviour-of not reading.

[afnan]

this is my problem I didn't enjoy reading literature because these works r from different culture. sometimes I can't understand it. why do I need to know what Shakespeare and others did. this is a major problem . I just want to know the language only.
that way I get tired very fast from reading cuz i need to developed my language first to be able to read and understand. as what they say a universal language.

[Calidore]

How in the world did this


Really, the best person to bring your troubles up to is your professor. That's where the best advice will come from.

become this?


calidore for your info
my professor appreciate and respect me. I may love to have fun but I do some good things too.

I don't doubt for a minute your professors appreciate and respect you; but if you start cheating on your assignments, that will change in a hurry.

Bottom line, if you haven't read the book, you're not going to be able to to a long analysis. You can possibly pay someone else or a service to do it, but your lack of effort will always show when you have to talk about it. Cliff Notes and Spark Notes are well known by professors and easily worked around, and they also have access to plagiarism-checking services.

I'm told it's a good book; you'll probably like it.

Next question: How do you expect to improve your English without reading or writing works of any length? Your professors are doubtless aware that you're not a native speaker and will hopefully help you out. There's also my original suggestion of asking for help from fellow students who you find attractive.

[RicMisc]

Of course you are completely entitled to not enjoy reading literature because it's from a different culture, but to me that is one of the main things that is so interesting about the novels. Getting to know other cultures and with that developing more skill in reading and understanding literature is one of the reasons I started reading these books. You might not get everything when you start out but if you have problems while reading the book you are always welcome to ask for clarification on the forum, that's what it's for.

As for Shakespeare, there are so much valuable things to find in his plays and sonnets. Things that transcend time and society. Although, if your goal is to learn English Shakespeare might not be the best starting point.

[afnan]

thank you all

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Write what you can as best you can, and ask another student, preferably one you find hot, to help clean it up.

This is definitely the optimal solution.