characters dilemmas

[cacian]

which situation or act have you found most difficult to write about when it came to relating one character to another?

I found trying to relate one character that is in love with another who just loves them back most difficult.
It is not easy to get them to relate in terms of behaviours and thoughts.

[cafolini]

which situation or act have you found most difficult to write about when it came to relating one character to another?

I found trying to relate one character that is in love with another who just loves them back most difficult.
It is not easy to get them to relate in terms of behaviours and thoughts.

Perhaps love is the most difficult because it cannot survive intellectually. There, one must be the most flexible, which is probably hardest, and proceed with simplicity at the same time. Love might not be made for much analysis in books.

[Delta40]

I guess that would depend on what sort of love you're referring to. Between a man and a woman? Between family? Relationships fraught with obstacles can be difficult but in the end and from what I've read from your other threads, don't you want a happy ending Cacian?

[MANICHAEAN]

I must be in a minority Cacian.

Physical & emotive love between a man & a woman, I have no trouble with, in fact it just flows as gracefully from my pen, as a duchess gliding in and out of Harrods. I find it difficult dealing with the more "exotic" sexualities of: man/man, woman/woman, (perhaps not so exotic these days). Here though I find the works of D.H.Lawrence a great enlightenment.

The odd occasion I indulge in science fiction, it is from what I hope is percieved as a more humerous aspect, whilst I normally stay clear of being drawn into the deeper waters of evil.

Racial topics I'm comfortable with. Perhaps it's associated with having travelled widely and being brought up on authors such as James Baldwin.

Have I missed anything? Or as Dame Edna is wont to remark, "I suppose you want to probe me and get into all those little dark corners!"

Best regards

M.

[cacian]

I guess that would depend on what sort of love you're referring to. Between a man and a woman? Between family? Relationships fraught with obstacles can be difficult but in the end and from what I've read from your other threads, don't you want a happy ending Cacian?

Haha...not so sure about happy just normal would be fine for me.
I like normality as the running theme as not to 'anxiousi throughout before reaching a 'happy ending' or not.
The love I was refering to is the one between a couple.

[cacian]

Perhaps love is the most difficult because it cannot survive intellectually. There, one must be the most flexible, which is probably hardest, and proceed with simplicity at the same time. Love might not be made for much analysis in books.

Hi cafolini
You mention love as 'not surviving intellectually', agreed if it is treated as a survival kitthen it won't last very long.
Love is naturally lasting and part of life if it is naturally driven. I regard love as part of nature and not a struggle that I have to fight for to keep.
I think love amongs others theme it should be treated as part of the whole story and not just bits here and there to make it as the cause for a happy ending.

[cafolini]

Hi cafolini
You mention love as 'not surviving intellectually', agreed if it is treated as a survival kitthen it won't last very long.
Love is naturally lasting and part of life if it is naturally driven. I regard love as part of nature and not a struggle that I have to fight for to keep.
I think love amongs others theme it should be treated as part of the whole story and not just bits here and there to make it as the cause for a happy ending.

We are saying more or less the same thing.

[Delta40]

Haha...not so sure about happy just normal would be fine for me.
I like normality as the running theme as not to 'anxiousi throughout before reaching a 'happy ending' or not.
The love I was refering to is the one between a couple.

I guess most love stories are not without their obstacles otherwise, what is the point of the story?

[cacian]

I guess most love stories are not without their obstacles otherwise, what is the point of the story?

Yes that is one of looking at it but after a significant amount of time and effort spend on the same idea one needs changes , something different.
I can't imagine us sitting here in 100 years time talking the same concept of there is no story without obstacles for fear of reaching boredom so one needs to challenge and find other concepts.
I am suggesting there is no happy ending and there is no bad ending, just a story with new directions where the reader feels he or she are in control of from the moment they think 'story'.

[cacian]

=MANICHAEAN;1133859]I must be in a minority Cacian.

Physical & emotive love between a man & a woman, I have no trouble with, in fact it just flows as gracefully from my pen, as a duchess gliding in and out of Harrods. I find it difficult dealing with the more "exotic" sexualities of: man/man, woman/woman, (perhaps not so exotic these days). Here though I find the works of D.H.Lawrence a great enlightenment.
I suppose one has to follow their instinct and write according to themselves and not others. Influences are great but not so great when they become our reliance to act or think.
I steer clear from anything to do with 'intimate literature because it is personal and different from one person to another.
I for one find it tiresome when coming cross generalisation and stereotypes. A writer that writes for others and assume that we all think and behave in the same way is not interesting to me. It makes avoid it all together.
There topics and scenarios that one is better off avoiding so no attract dislikes or criticism because one's words on something is not the final words far from it.
I do however find interesting that you describe intimacy between two non straight couples as exotic. I am not sure I follow.

The odd occasion I indulge in science fiction, it is from what I hope is percieved as a more humerous aspect, whilst I normally stay clear of being drawn into the deeper waters of evil.
I enjoy humour in stories and that is one thing I liketo write with and for.

Racial topics I'm comfortable with. Perhaps it's associated with having travelled widely and being brought up on authors such as James Baldwin.
I am not sure I understand what you mean by radical as I am not familiar with James Baldwin.


Have I missed anything? Or as Dame Edna is wont to remark, "I suppose you want to probe me and get into all those little dark corners!"
Best regards

Haha...I don't think you are missing anything.:smile5:



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[Delta40]

Yes that is one of looking at it but after a significant amount of time and effort spend on the same idea one needs changes , something different.
I can't imagine us sitting here in 100 years time talking the same concept of there is no story without obstacles for fear of reaching boredom so one needs to challenge and find other concepts.
I am suggesting there is no happy ending and there is no bad ending, just a story with new directions where the reader feels he or she are in control of from the moment they think 'story'.

When it comes to love which is timeless, I think the theme will remain solid. It is up to the author to find new directions, new journeys to take the reader on and I am confident for every love story that is published, the author endeavours to do just that. Whether they succeed or not is another story...