is change as bad as we think

[Dpignone24]

I'm sure that we all miss being younger and having to not worry about anything and now that a lot of us are grown up and developed new responsibilities and having more mature mind sets and we have to worry about things like how we look, what people think about us, friends, family, drama and death. What are your ideas about how society changing and the people in it? Is change good or bad? Should we be so concerned about how others view us?

[Dark Muse]

Well as a reclusive, anti-social misanthrope I never felt an inclination to worry about what people think of me, or what I look like. I am quite apathetic about the opinions other people may have of me. I really don't care.

On the topic of change, I do not think it is either good or bad. It is a part of life, a part of the world, and well it is what it is. Some changes might have positive outcomes, while other changes may seem to be for the worse. I think to a certain degree it is how we choose to respond to the changes happening that determine if they will be good or bad.

[Emillatilla]

Well as a reclusive, anti-social misanthrope I never felt an inclination to worry about what people think of me, or what I look like. I am quite apathetic about the opinions other people may have of me. I really don't care.

On the topic of change, I do not think it is either good or bad. It is a part of life, a part of the world, and well it is what it is. Some changes might have positive outcomes, while other changes may seem to be for the worse. I think to a certain degree it is how we choose to respond to the changes happening that determine if they will be good or bad.

Any more questions, D24? :)

[JuniperWoolf]

I like change. The ability to adapt to a new environment and circumstances is one of the primary indicators of human intelligence and mental health, so I see change as a chance to prove myself. Challenges are fun.

By the way, this is in the wrong subforum.

[Gregory Samsa]

Is death as bad as we think? It's a big change.

[Patrick_Bateman]

If the history of living organsims has taught us anything it is the perpetuity of change (evolution if you will.) And that we (humans) learn to adapt either through necessity or choice for our own benefit.

I don't always like change. I used to be in the army so routine has become a comfortable cycle for me. Knowing what is coming and what I will be doing most weeks is comfortable for me. But I do enjoy changes that add interest to my existence. However I'm at an age where most changes result in more responsibilities and less money.

Unfortunately I do care what people think of me and how I look. I won't step out of the house in a hoodie or tracksuit bottoms. Even if I am just going down to the shop for milk I have to smarten up. When I am with a group of people I find myself questioning in my head everything I am about to say or do before I give myself permission to say or do it. I am too conscious of how I will be perceived through my actions and what I say, so quite often I will inhibit myself consciously.

I am only myself when I am alone with my gf, family or close friends. Which is a shame. It makes it even worse that I am aware of it.

[cafolini]

If the history of living organsims has taught us anything it is the perpetuity of change (evolution if you will.) And that we (humans) learn to adapt either through necessity or choice for our own benefit.

I don't always like change. I used to be in the army so routine has become a comfortable cycle for me. Knowing what is coming and what I will be doing most weeks is comfortable for me. But I do enjoy changes that add interest to my existence. However I'm at an age where most changes result in more responsibilities and less money.

Unfortunately I do care what people think of me and how I look. I won't step out of the house in a hoodie or tracksuit bottoms. Even if I am just going down to the shop for milk I have to smarten up. When I am with a group of people I find myself questioning in my head everything I am about to say or do before I give myself permission to say or do it. I am too conscious of how I will be perceived through my actions and what I say, so quite often I will inhibit myself consciously.

I am only myself when I am alone with my gf, family or close friends. Which is a shame. It makes it even worse that I am aware of it.

I think that's a very fair point of view. Even for a soldier accustomed to routine the changes are very speedy today. All you have to do is look into Military.com to see how immensely different is the training and how many the changes not only in terms of technology and scientific advancement, but also in the relatioships, the teamwork and overall psychology. It is indeed evolution and I think for the better in the preservation of freedom. Adaptation has become a conscious necessity.

[osho]

I hate the dullness of un-change, sticking somewhere for long and rapidity, mobility, dynamism are my dictums. Dullness will swallow you in a while and frustration, depression are symptoms of immobility. I always want change in everything I do, think and believe in and I never stop changing myself and travelling is one of the ways I change myself, going to different locales, eating different meals, learning new languages, meeting new people. Imagine who do not opt

[Climacus]

Is change good or bad? It all depends. Some is good, some is bad, some is neither, some is both. :yawnb:

To go from being hopeless to being hopeful is a good change. To go from being hopeful to being hopeless is a bad change. To go from being unshaven to shaven is, probably, a neutral change. To go from being younger to being older is, probably, a change both good and bad.


I do not think it is either good or bad . . . I think to a certain degree it is how we choose to respond to the changes happening that determine if they will be good or bad.
Well, which is it, the former or the latter? :p Seriously though, I think see what you're getting at. But I hold misgivings. Having your beloved house full of your beloved paintings burn down is bad, a bad change. But it may provide you with an opportunity for selfless heroism (returning to the burning house to save a young child, for instance), which may develop your character positively - a good change. But, all the same, the original change, the art-destroying flame-engulfed house, was still bad. Wasn't it?

[Dark Muse]

Well, which is it, the former or the latter? :p Seriously though, I think see what you're getting at. But I hold misgivings. Having your house burn down is bad, a bad change. But it may provide you with an opportunity for selfless heroism (returning to the burning house to save a young child, for instance), which may develop your character positively - a good change. But, all the same, the original change, the flame-engulfed house, was still bad.

What I was basically trying to say, is that it depends upon the change. Some changes can be for the better and others seemingly for the worse. But change in of itself cannot be said to be bad or good.

As you said above, your house burning down would be a bad change. But on the other hand wining the lotto would be a good change.

Change in a broad general term cannot be classified as one or the other. It depends upon each individual situation.

As to the second statement. To use the burning house example again, while it would be physically a bad change and could have unfortunate outcomes, one can also consider their fortune that they are still alive, and the tragedy may help draw a family closer together, it may give a person a new outlook on life, may make them reevaluate their priorities of what is really important. They can choose not to make their primary focus on the negative aspects of the situation but try and find something positive to take away from the experience.

[Climacus]

Change in a broad general term cannot be classified as one or the other. It depends upon each individual situation.
Right. That's what I think too. It all depends. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's neither, sometimes it's both.

. . . To use the burning house example again, while it would be physically a bad change and could have unfortunate outcomes, one can also consider their fortune that they are still alive, and the tragedy may help draw a family closer together, it may give a person a new outlook on life, may make them reevaluate their priorities of what is really important. They can choose not to make their primary focus on the negative aspects of the situation but try and find something positive to take away from the experience.
Wouldn't this, then, be an example of a change that is both good and bad - good in some ways and bad in others - rather than neither good nor bad?

[Dark Muse]

. change in of itself cannot be said to be bad or good. ?

What I am trying to say, apparently not very well :biggrin5:

Is that a situation can be good, or a situation can be bad.

But one cannot simply say that

Change IS Good
or
Change IS Bad.

An individual change in a specific situation may be good or an individual change in a specific situation may be bad, or it may perhaps be a little bit of both. And each individual has the choice to transform any change they experience as being something or being something bad based on how they choose to perceive that change and respond to it and what elements of it they focus on.

But the simple statement that change is good or change is bad cannot be made.

While we cannot always control the things which may happen to us in our lives, change is ultimately what we choose to make it.

[Climacus]

But the simple statement that change is good or change is bad cannot be made.
Gotcha. You mean that change qua change is neutral. Right. I agree.

[Dark Muse]

Gotcha. You mean that change qua change is neutral. Right. I agree.

Yes, that is it!