Who would have imagined we genuine bandits

[cafolini]

We postmodernists were a branch of Freemasons way back when. We were an offshoot of the Anglican Church and latter Fabians. We had lots of secrets until the decade of the 1950’s when we became famous Masons. The Nazi’s knew about us but did not grasp the meaning. Since the 18th century to 1945 we were few. Hitler & Co. persecuted us, using his robotcops to kill any Mason they caught in sausage land. We were one in a thousand, yet, he thought we were extremely dangerous. Generalissimo Franco put a price on our heads. That’s why we had to have lots of secrets, while we defeated the Spanish crown in the New World. The wars of Latin American independence were financed by bankers from London.
In Japan we were not known that much but after the rendition, MacArthur, one of our few, made Hirohito commit psychological suicide. He made him come out over the airwaves and reveal that of the divine he only had good sake. That’s why in 1945 our Fat Man from England came out with the right hand raised and, conforming the V of Victory, said: Never before so many owed so much to so few. This is truly the land of the free and the home of the brave. Did you know that those of us who understood this called the V of Victory the Peace Sign out of utter irony.
Since then, we postmodernists are famous Masons Galore. We have no secrets of that nature any longer. Well, except for that freaky Ernest Bornigne with the secret helicopters in the seventies, and a few other vestiges even today wearing the black ring.
You’ll see our smiles and cordial hello’s if you check Famous Masons in the Internet. What do we want secrets for after victory? Y’all have fun.

[BlackCat]

We postmodernists were a branch of Freemasons way back when. We were an offshoot of the Anglican Church and latter Fabians. We had lots of secrets until the decade of the 1950’s when we became famous Masons. The Nazi’s knew about us but did not grasp the meaning. Since the 18th century to 1945 we were few. Hitler & Co. persecuted us, using his robotcops to kill any Mason they caught in sausage land. We were one in a thousand, yet, he thought we were extremely dangerous. Generalissimo Franco put a price on our heads. That’s why we had to have lots of secrets, while we defeated the Spanish crown in the New World. The wars of Latin American independence were financed by bankers from London.
In Japan we were not known that much but after the rendition, MacArthur, one of our few, made Hirohito commit psychological suicide. He made him come out over the airwaves and reveal that of the divine he only had good sake. That’s why in 1945 our Fat Man from England came out with the right hand raised and, conforming the V of Victory, said: Never before so many owed so much to so few. This is truly the land of the free and the home of the brave. Did you know that those of us who understood this called the V of Victory the Peace Sign out of utter irony.
Since then, we postmodernists are famous Masons Galore. We have no secrets of that nature any longer. Well, except for that freaky Ernest Bornigne with the secret helicopters in the seventies, and a few other vestiges even today wearing the black ring.
You’ll see our smiles and cordial hello’s if you check Famous Masons in the Internet. What do we want secrets for after victory? Y’all have fun.

WTH? Postmodernism is a philosophy, I cannot see what the Anglican church and the Japanese has to do with this. Also the peace sign has a much different history.

[cafolini]

WTH? Postmodernism is a philosophy, I cannot see what the Anglican church and the Japanese has to do with this. Also the peace sign has a much different history.

Postmodernism is an actuality in action in contrast to modernism in the museum. The first one to show the so-called peace sign and make it famous was Winston Churchill. It was the V of Victory. Postmodernism would have been impossible without the elimination of the Nazi's and their allies, the Roman Catholic Church through Mussolini.
We disagree and that's it. So what? It wouldn't be the first time.

[BlackCat]

this whole thread is incoherent. Especially on the Roman Catholic Church. Mussolini did nothing on the Catholic Church, He was a coward, hesitant dictator and in my regard the worst dictator in the history of dictators.

Now that aside, still I have no idea what in the world this thread is about.

[cafolini]

this whole thread is incoherent. Especially on the Roman Catholic Church. Mussolini did nothing on the Catholic Church, He was a coward, hesitant dictator and in my regard the worst dictator in the history of dictators.

Now that aside, still I have no idea what in the world this thread is about.

Dangerous ideas are not for everyone.

[BlackCat]

Dangerous ideas are not for everyone.

this is not a dangerous idea because not one person understand what this is

[cafolini]

this is not a dangerous idea because not one person understand what this is

Except BlackCat who understands not one understands. Well, at least you got something out of it. You are right. Next!

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I don't get it, either.

[cafolini]

I don't get it, either.

It's your right.

[Jack of Hearts]

LOL

Oh my god hahahaha








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[Jack of Hearts]

Hold on, hold on... there's a quote around here that describes exactly how this reader feels about this...

[Jack of Hearts]

It is indeed a mixture of consciences. The rhetoric of consistency is a Protagorian aberration of sophism. No diarrhealectics. Parallel flows, per subject. Beautiful, elucidating piece. Swift style.

There we go.







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[hillwalker]

Agreed - utter tosh.:icon_bs:

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[BlackCat]

this is probably why we have English as part of the curiculum

[Darcy88]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug!

[cafolini]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug!

Ignorance is worse.
http://www.masonic-lodges.com/famous-masons.html

[Alexander III]

this whole thread is incoherent. Especially on the Roman Catholic Church. Mussolini did nothing on the Catholic Church, He was a coward, hesitant dictator and in my regard the worst dictator in the history of dictators.


Sure he was no angel, but he did a lot of good for the country as well. He was the only ever prime-minsiter to effectively kill of the mafia in Italy. Which the Americans duly restored after the war due to mutual interest.

He also revamped the education system taking it into the 20th century, something which was desperately needed. He also was a strong patron of the arts and he gave italy the infrastructure it sorely needed.

At the beginning he was much loved, as as long as a man was apolitical, his quality of life increased at the beginning of mussolini's reign. But with time he went bad like most dictators and ended up doing more harm than good.

But still, he did a lot of good, which no politician in Italy ever had the balls to do. In Italy ever politician is in somewhat of alliance with the mafia right now, the second one tries to act against it his political career is ended.

[cafolini]

Alexander. That's like getting up at night in the 19th century because of prostate problems and peeing outside de can. The Catholic Church was behind every aspect of WWII. Who do you suppose washed the money into Germany for Hitler to have finished with unemployment and stablishing the Third Reich by 1933? How did Generalissimo Franco immersed in National Catholicism, showing the Roman Salute at every step, managed to get the Germans (the Condor squadron) to bomb Guernica and Madrid to win the civil war? What about the details of the Treaty of Letran? What about the details of the King of Italy acting as a buffer zone between Mussolini and The Newly Established Vatican for the New Rome of Mussolini.
What you are saying is ludicrous and doesn't fit within any serious research about WWII and what for?

[BlackCat]

Alexander. That's like getting up at night in the 19th century because of prostate problems and peeing outside de can. The Catholic Church was behind every aspect of WWII. Who do you suppose washed the money into Germany for Hitler to have finished with unemployment and stablishing the Third Reich by 1933? How did Generalissimo Franco immersed in National Catholicism, showing the Roman Salute at every step, managed to get the Germans (the Condor squadron) to bomb Guernica and Madrid to win the civil war? What about the details of the Treaty of Letran? What about the details of the King of Italy acting as a buffer zone between Mussolini and The Newly Established Vatican for the New Rome of Mussolini.
What you are saying is ludicrous and doesn't fit within any serious research about WWII and what for?

You sounds like those anti-Catholic seventh day adventist I've met (no offense to any great adventists out there). Let me help you with some history lesson.

No one helped Hitler, Adolf Hitler fanaticism and his dictatorial power helped raised Germany up economically through his harsh treatments, as well as his charismatic rhetoric which galvanized the entire German nation (I'd be too if someone call my nation Father Land). The Third Reich thus started. No doubt there were some clergy and Catholics involved (being a Catholic country after all), nonetheless there was no direct influence from the Catholic toward the Third Reich. Many Catholics lay and clergy helped hiding Jews, the Pope publicly condemned Naziism and there are much proofs of him helping and aiding the Jewish people during the war.

Francisco Franco, like all dictators, were brutal and ruthless. National Catholicism? You must have neglect how the "devout" revolutionaries managed to shot down the statue of the Sacred Heart of Jesus? How the "devout" revolutionaries treat religious places, clergy...? The Roman Salute? Where does it say the Roman Salute is the symbol or the signature hand signal of the Catholic Church? Last time I check the hand signature is the sign of the cross: In nomine Patri et Filii et Spiritus Sancti, amen.

There was no new established Vatican, the Vatican has always been there (though the Papal State has gone since the 19th century). There was no king acted as a buffer zone between the Vatican and Mussolini as I remembered, though I might be wrong, it'd be nice if you can provide your newly research articles on WWII and about this Italian king for the sake of argument?

[cafolini]

You sounds like those anti-Catholic seventh day adventist I've met (no offense to any great adventists out there). Let me help you with some history lesson.

No one helped Hitler, Adolf Hitler fanaticism and his dictatorial power helped raised Germany up economically through his harsh treatments, as well as his charismatic rhetoric which galvanized the entire German nation (I'd be too if someone call my nation Father Land). The Third Reich thus started. No doubt there were some clergy and Catholics involved (being a Catholic country after all), nonetheless there was no direct influence from the Catholic toward the Third Reich. Many Catholics lay and clergy helped hiding Jews, the Pope publicly condemned Naziism and there are much proofs of him helping and aiding the Jewish people during the war.

Francisco Franco, like all dictators, were brutal and ruthless. National Catholicism? You must have neglect how the "devout" revolutionaries managed to shot down the statue of the Sacred Heart of Jesus? How the "devout" revolutionaries treat religious places, clergy...? The Roman Salute? Where does it say the Roman Salute is the symbol or the signature hand signal of the Catholic Church? Last time I check the hand signature is the sign of the cross: In nomine Patri et Filii et Spiritus Sancti, amen.

There was no new established Vatican, the Vatican has always been there (though the Papal State has gone since the 19th century). There was no king acted as a buffer zone between the Vatican and Mussolini as I remembered, though I might be wrong, it'd be nice if you can provide your newly research articles on WWII and about this Italian king for the sake of argument?

Ha! Ignorance finds no bounds. You might as well dedicate your life to write like a mysterious cat.

[BlackCat]

Ha! Ignorance finds no bounds. You might as well dedicate your life to write like a mysterious cat.

if you wish to prove me ignorant, then I'd courteously ask you for some documented proofs that could prove me so. If not, then your words are as objectionable as the words of the attorney general in A Tale of Two Stories.

[cafolini]

if you wish to prove me ignorant, then I'd courteously ask you for some documented proofs that could prove me so. If not, then your words are as objectionable as the words of the attorney general in A Tale of Two Stories.

Alright. I don't pretend much more.

[WolfLarsen]

This is the most interesting piece I've read on this website in quite a while, and for that I'm grateful. I think I need to try harder. That is, if I just keep clicking on one thread after another I'm bound to find something interesting. Sometimes I get depressed when I click on one thread after the other and don't find anything worth reading. It's sad.

[BlackCat]

Alright. I don't pretend much more.

then proof my good sir?

[cafolini]

I don't have much that I haven't proved in the context of my thread.

[BlackCat]

I don't have much that I haven't proved in the context of my thread.

you don't have much opinions that you haven't EXPRESSED in the thread. You however have no proof, documented proof that prove your points and opinions, be it may literary or historical.

I shall continue to wait, to know whether your reason is as strong as your bold opinions, or if you are just that, a lovely purse with not much content :lurk5:

[cafolini]

Alexander,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City
1929

[BlackCat]

Alexander,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City
1929

The Lateran Treaty

This situation was resolved on 11 February 1929 between the Holy See and the Kingdom of Italy. The Lateran Treaty was signed by Benito Mussolini on behalf of King Victor Emmanuel III and by Cardinal Secretary of State Pietro Gasparri for Pope Pius XI. The treaty, which became effective on 7 June 1929, and the Concordat established the independent State of the Vatican City and granted Roman Catholicism special status in Italy.

and...?

[cafolini]

Alexander,
Pay attention to details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#Spanish_Civil_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Armada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

You might want to also study carefully the Reign of Queen Elizabeth I.

[BlackCat]

Alexander,
Pay attention to details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#Spanish_Civil_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Armada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

You might want to also study carefully the Reign of Queen Elizabeth I.

Dictatorship as well as fascism is condemned by the Church, publicly by Pope Pius himself in regard to Hitler. Francisco Franco did support the Catholic Church (which I find much better than letting the Communist run the country) he was not a perfect man, and indeed he did many wrongs and did use the Church as a scapegoat to ensure his power. But Francisco Franco in regard did enable Spain to stand up, as well as helping Spain conclude the civil war that plagues almost everyone.

In regard to Queen Elizabeth I, she was a Protestant, so I don't really know what she has to do with the Catholic religion. In regard to the Spanish Armada, that was like what, the 16th or 17th century? They fought not only for religion but also for political power.

[cafolini]

Dictatorship as well as fascism is condemned by the Church, publicly by Pope Pius himself in regard to Hitler. Francisco Franco did support the Catholic Church (which I find much better than letting the Communist run the country) he was not a perfect man, and indeed he did many wrongs and did use the Church as a scapegoat to ensure his power. But Francisco Franco in regard did enable Spain to stand up, as well as helping Spain conclude the civil war that plagues almost everyone.

In regard to Queen Elizabeth I, she was a Protestant, so I don't really know what she has to do with the Catholic religion. In regard to the Spanish Armada, that was like what, the 16th or 17th century? They fought not only for religion but also for political power.
I was talking to Alexander, Black Kitty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII_and_the_Holocaust#Reaction_to_the_ra cial_laws
What a put on it was.
You don't know what Elizabeth had to do with the Catholic Church or Mary Queen of Scotts among others? Thumbs up.

[WolfLarsen]

Funny thing is I don't recall anything in the Norton anthology that was as interesting reading as this. If every post on this website was as interesting as this one (and as different from each other as night is from day) I think I would be absolutely delighted!

I don't believe this piece has any political agenda. It makes me think of Da-da and some other things, but I could be waaaay off.

I don't think this piece belongs in any Norton anthology, because it's too good for the Norton anthology.

[xtianfriborg13]

The conversation here is funny. LOL