Poetry book club final poll

[Alexander III]

Ok everyone has ONLY 2 VOTES, you may vote for any of the above options.

[Alexander III]

This poll will close in 10 days

[stlukesguild]

Ten Days!?!? :eek2::mad2:

Crap. I could read all 5 of them on my own by then.:shocked:

[Alexander III]

Ten Days!?!? :eek2::mad2:

Crap. I could read all 5 of them on my own by then.:shocked:

:prrr:

[stlukesguild]

It took but 6 days to create the universe, with the seventh off to watch some football, and yet it takes a bunch of over-educated, under-motivated poetry loving idiots a full month to decide upon what book to read next. :willy_nilly:

[JBI]

I say close it tomorrow. Most people who voted for the first poll have put in for the second already.

[Alexander III]

ok if you are all fine with it, I will close it tomorrow at midnight

[Alexander III]

I just realized this is quite a close race between Byron and Holderin - Romantic much :brow:

[Darcy88]

What do we do in the event of a tie? We are only reading one selection right?

[Alexander III]

Good question

[Alexander III]

So when do we begin reading Don Juan?

[kensington]

Maybe I should withdraw my vote.

If I'm counting correctly, it's a tie right now. If you take out the people who have less than 50 votes which are Logan, Chris, Theodore, K. Brignel and Pierre, then there's 4 for Don Juan and 4 for Holderin. So I'll withdraw my vote and it will go to Holderin. If I'm figuring it correctly. I like Don Juan, but I can't contribute much, and since it's tied, it needs to be untied.... :blush5:

[Alexander III]

ok this is now a conundrum.

At the agreed closing date Don Juan won, but someone voted after and it is a tie. I really need to hear some voices on what to do, as I am not quite sure.

[JBI]

I would be more skeptical as to how one can read don Juan given it's length.

[Alexander III]

I would be more skeptical as to how one can read don Juan given it's length.

Its more or less the same length as a novel, it took me a week, and I am a rather slow reader.

[JBI]

Its more or less the same length as a novel, it took me a week, and I am a rather slow reader.

It defeats much of the purpose of discussing it as a poem. if we read it like a novel, that misses the point, if we read each verse individually, that makes the discussion difficult to keep orderly. Half the thrill of the book is how each verse deals with itself.

[Darcy88]

Lorca won the first vote but got many fewer votes in the second poll. We could do a third poll or we could just read Don Juan. I kind of agree with JBI that reading so long a work would make discussing it somewhat difficult.

[kensington]

I have an idea! Why not do Holderin? A lot of people want that one.

[stlukesguild]

:banghead:

[kensington]

Let's see, D. H. Lawrence isn't good, but how about Alcools? That one might be a good choice!

[Darcy88]

Let's see, D. H. Lawrence isn't good, but how about Alcools? That one might be a good choice!

Hey, hey, hey. Don't be slandering the great D. H. now.

[kensington]

Hey, hey, hey. Don't be slandering the great D. H. now.

My literary hero said he isn't good. I can't remember the exact criticism, but to put it mildly, D. H. Lawrence is "distasteful."

[Darcy88]

My literary hero said he isn't good. I can't remember the exact criticism, but to put it mildly, D. H. Lawrence is "distasteful."

Who is your literary hero? Joyce?

[kensington]

Who is your literary hero? Joyce?

My literary hero is the author of the poem, I have a very mighty ****. I think he said that D. H. Lawrence is kind of dirty. And he said that Joyce isn't good either.

[Darcy88]

My literary hero is the author of the poem, I have a very mighty ****. I think he said that D. H. Lawrence is kind of dirty. And he said that Joyce isn't good either.

I can't find that poem or any reference to it online. If he's criticizing Lawrence and Joyce he better be one hell of a poet. Without having even read him I am going to pass judgement and say that he himself is not very good. Saying that Lawrence and Joyce are not "good" is laughable.

[kensington]

I can't find that poem or any reference to it online. If he's criticizing Lawrence and Joyce he better be one hell of a poet. Without having even read him I am going to pass judgement and say that he himself is not very good. Saying that Lawrence and Joyce are not "good" is laughable.

The poem was just posted today in personal poetry. I just commented on it. Hey, I know, we could discuss the poem I have a very might ****. It's not as wordy as Don Juan, and it would hold our attention better.

And no, not true that he isn't a good poet. He is a great poet.

[Darcy88]

The poem was just posted today in personal poetry. I just commented on it. Hey, I know, we could discuss the poem I have a very might ****. It's not as wordy as Don Juan, and it would hold our attention better.

And no, not true that he isn't a good poet. He is a great poet.

I found who you're referring to and I have to agree he's a decent poet. Read Lawrence yourself though, don't dismiss based on what others say.

[JBI]

You guys are stuck with Don Juan, live with it, you voted for him, you have only yourselves to blame, no more changing opinions. It's time for those who chose to vote for him to begin discussing why.

[Alexander III]

If there was ever a microcosm which clearly explained the faults of democracy, this thread would be it.

[chrisvia]

If there was ever a microcosm which clearly explained the faults of democracy, this thread would be it.

Triple like! :D

[Alexander III]

Ok, let me try and sort this, the votes say Don Juan won - thus we shall read don juan, sounds fair enough to me.

it is composed of many cantos, and I think the easiest way to discuss it is on a canto by canto basis.

And I dont see the problem with narrative poetry, I mean the best poetry is narritive poetry, Don Juan, Eugene Onegin, Aenid, Ls comedia divina - these are some of the best poems I have ever read.

[Darcy88]

Ok, let me try and sort this, the votes say Don Juan won - thus we shall read don juan, sounds fair enough to me.

it is composed of many cantos, and I think the easiest way to discuss it is on a canto by canto basis.

And I dont see the problem with narrative poetry, I mean the best poetry is narritive poetry, Don Juan, Eugene Onegin, Aenid, Ls comedia divina - these are some of the best poems I have ever read.

All right. I'll start reading it tomorrow. Pretty sure I already have a copy somewhere around here.

[Alexander III]

All right. I'll start reading it tomorrow. Pretty sure I already have a copy somewhere around here.

If not

here is the poem online http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21700/21700-h/21700-h.htm

[Darcy88]

Anyone else in? 9 people voted for Don Juan. I wasn't one of them but am into reading and discussing it nonetheless.

[cacian]

Hi I am new to this activity.
I have voted for Appolinaire but DonJuan is good.
How does this reading group work?
Thank you.

[Emillatilla]

Anyone else in? 9 people voted for Don Juan. I wasn't one of them but am into reading and discussing it nonetheless.

I'm in for Don Juan. Why don't you go ahead and start when you're ready.

[YesNo]

Going through the dedication, it seems that Byron and Southey did not get along even though Byron dedicated the book to him.

Does anyone know anything of the politics of Byron's time? Was a "Tory" the good guy or the bad guy?

[j.hart]

You guys are stuck with Don Juan, live with it, you voted for him, you have only yourselves to blame, no more changing opinions. It's time for those who chose to vote for him to begin discussing why.

I agree! Let's do this! Thanks for posting the link to it. I'm going to start on it as well. :willy_nilly:

[Darcy88]

I just started a new round of courses and am busy as hell, but I've been meaning to read Don Juan for years. I say anybody interested in discussing it should go ahead and start reading it. We can discuss as we progress through the text.

[Drkshadow03]

Going through the dedication, it seems that Byron and Southey did not get along even though Byron dedicated the book to him.

Does anyone know anything of the politics of Byron's time? Was a "Tory" the good guy or the bad guy?

I'm finished with the dedication and first Canto.

Tory = conservatives of their day.

Whigs = liberals of their day.

Byron castigates Southey, Wordsworth, and Coleridge for abandoning their earlier liberal sentiments. More particularly he pokes fun at perceived flaws in their poetry, calling Wordsworth's writing unintelligible, Coleridge's writing lost in complicated metaphysicals, and Southey for being trite and untalented. The dedication is meant to be ironic.

[YesNo]

Thanks, Drkshadow03. I guess Tory would be the bad guy for Byron.

I'm in the middle of the first Canto at the part where Juan and Julia are getting to know each other better.

[YesNo]

I don't know when the discussion of Don Juan is going to start, but before I forget it, I think a key piece of advice from the first Canto has to be the following especially if you're looking for Don Juan and can't find him:


And then they stared each other's faces round:
'Tis odd, not one of all these seekers thought,
And seems to be almost a sort of blunder,
Of looking in the bed as well as under.

[stlukesguild]

I think that the discussion should take place under it's own thread so that others who may be interested may be more likely to stumble upon a discussion of Byron's Don Juan than "The Poetry Club Final Poll"