Darwin,Atheism and Religion

[KCurtis]

These posts are so funny. I like reading what you all have to say-some very clever people here. And a young edge that I like and miss- Oh to be young again!! I think I am until I look in the mirror.:yikes:
Seriously though, most people my age are stuck- and they listen to Neil Diamond. NOT ME!!!

[YesNo]

One thing that baffles me about those of Bien's persuasion who denigrate science because it clashes with the 'facts' in the Bible...

They believe God made Man, and Man is fallible... so just as scientists can be fallible (but are working at it) why can't those who wrote the Bible also be fallible? Are we saying intelligence peaked when the Bible was written and we've all become increasingly moronic since the days of Moses or whoever?

H
The only thing that should matter from your position is whether you think the bible is fallible or not, not whether BienvenuJDC does or not.

We are all offering each other a lot of interesting characters. I wouldn't want any of them quieted. For some of us, these characters may influence future stories or poems. For others, they may give us ideas that change the way we think. But for most, if not all of us, those characters that we each find annoying test our patience and give us an opportunity to practice patience -- or not.

[Varenne Rodin]

One thing that baffles me about those of Bien's persuasion who denigrate science because it clashes with the 'facts' in the Bible...

They believe God made Man, and Man is fallible... so just as scientists can be fallible (but are working at it) why can't those who wrote the Bible also be fallible? Are we saying intelligence peaked when the Bible was written and we've all become increasingly moronic since the days of Moses or whoever?

H

Excellent question. It will be ignored and/or railed against by the zealots. To add to it, if God himself wrote the bible, why doesn't he write another? Why doesn't he choose to make sense and be visible in modern times?

[cafolini]

Agreed. I have a hard time understanding why people debate and discuss these issues over and over again, without any new or progressive outcome.

''Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'' -Albert Einstein

But, hey, I'm all for freedom of speech and sharing of opinions... so if people like to engage in these discussions, then great. I just don't even have the patience or the nerves for it... It's exasperating just to read...

I agree. But to me they are like baboonic jokes. Actually not all who disagree are obliged to disagree in all respects. I for example can't take Einstein's BS regarding science, but I am forced to say that in the quote you present here I can't find a pinch of disagreement except that of course there is much more to it. What about the usual jackass who's rhetoric has such an unending amplitude of variations and disguises that he actually manages to repeat himself endlessly while appearing to said something different each new time? So the problem seems to somehow involve IQ in determining insanity. If he can fool people with a 125+, he's normal.

Perhaps one of my favorite observers of all times put it best: "You know, you don't have to spend much time in Washington to understand the prophetic visions of the men who designed all the streets in there. They go in circles." ~ Ronald Reagan

[Calidore]

An important thing to remember about the Bible is there have been several layers of human intervention involved in giving us what we have. Humans wrote what they claimed God said (at the time, men thought the world was flat and the center of the universe, but obviously the Creator knew better, so there's one example of man's limitations poisoning the well right off the bat); other humans decided which of these "books" would and would not be included in the Bible (hence the Apocrypha, accepted by some but not others); still other humans translated the original ancient Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek into other languages (we have dozens of English translations alone, all with their own translation philosophies, styles, and agendas). So whatever the adulterated word of God may have been, good luck separating it from all the political shenanigans.

[Varenne Rodin]

...and if god talked to those guys, he should talk to us. I don't think he did talk to those guys, though. I think they were either liars, lunatics, or entertainers in a boring time. Someone turned it into quite a money maker.

[cafolini]

...and if god talked to those guys, he should talk to us. I don't think he did talk to those guys, though. I think they were either liars, lunatics, or entertainers in a boring time. Someone turned it into quite a money maker.

Not all jesters are aware that they are jesting.

[Varenne Rodin]

Those are the lunatics.

[cafolini]

Those are the lunatics.

The enlightened from too much reflection.